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Igel

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13. It's just old fashioned.

Tue Mar 15, 2022, 10:41 PM

Mar 2022

Russian doesn't have a word for "the" so "Ukraine" and "the Ukraine" are both "Ukraina."

It's like Sindh or The Sindh, Sudan or The Sudan, Ghana or The Ghana.

At some point the "the" went from being unnecessary to being annoying to being offensive and un-utterable.

In the course of 20 years. (But for Ukraine, in the '90s it was conscious and intentional. There was a "the country isn't 'the Ukraine,' that's offensive' campaign. Don't know about the others.)

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Imagine you're a soldier invading Ukraine...and the Russians hand you this: [View all] Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 OP

maybe they are more reliable than the new stuff nt msongs Mar 2022 #1

*Ukraine. WarGamer Mar 2022 #2

(yes, pls don't call it "THE Ukraine"....) lastlib Mar 2022 #6

Aargh. Corrected. What can I say, I'm old. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #8

hehehehe... WarGamer Mar 2022 #9

you're cool, bro! lastlib Mar 2022 #10

It's just old fashioned. Igel Mar 2022 #13

Ukraine is the name of a sovereign nation, and the Ukraine is what Putin calls it L. Coyote Mar 2022 #33

Also, the word "The" is the property of a newly renamed ... JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2022 #46

Saw someone on Chris Hayes tonight gab13by13 Mar 2022 #3

Cabelas had a bunch of those a couple years ago for $100 each nt doc03 Mar 2022 #4

I also saw that GP6971 Mar 2022 #18

Maybe they could use your Enfield to fix the old RPGs? TrollBuster9090 Mar 2022 #32

If Cabelas is selling something for $100 they probably weren't paying the doc03 Mar 2022 #47

The corrupt Russian Generals have looted and gutted their own military... Thomas Hurt Mar 2022 #5

So let's hope that their nuclear capability wnylib Mar 2022 #34

Think China's tepid support of Russia is that they see a big market for upgraded weapons. Hoyt Mar 2022 #7

So insane, right? Russia is the home manufacturer of the most ubiquitous and well-designed assault.. brush Mar 2022 #21

If they don't mind getting paid in IOUs. TrollBuster9090 Mar 2022 #37

Asking for China's help certainly shows China just how WEAK Putin's military is MagickMuffin Mar 2022 #52

Well, you could only hope that you're a sniper.... Dan Mar 2022 #11

My understanding is that they make very good sniper rifles TheRealNorth Mar 2022 #12

I guess they sing the song, "Everything old is new again". BigmanPigman Mar 2022 #14

Lots of confirmed kills between these ladies in WW2, same rifle/scope WarGamer Mar 2022 #15

And who know, perhaps the guy is skilled, the rifle has been well treated over the last 80 years, Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #19

Stil pretty weird to see it in 2022... WarGamer Mar 2022 #20

Absolutely. For heaven's sake, it was replaced by the Dragunov in 1963! Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #22

I remember seeing those in the rusty relic section of the gun shop... WarGamer Mar 2022 #23

A nice WW2 issues M91/30 with original scope is around $1K to $2K these days. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #24

wow... I haven't stepped into a gun shop since 99-ish. WarGamer Mar 2022 #25

HK91: $5K-ish. SP89: Up to $10K by itself. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #26

I read somewhere that while the gun was reliably accurate, the Russian scopes during WW2 were not. TheRealNorth Mar 2022 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author Beartracks Mar 2022 #16

A friend of mine bought a Mosin Nagant a few years ago at a Big Five for $99.00. panader0 Mar 2022 #17

If it works... Retrograde Mar 2022 #27

The Ukrainians mod them up Celerity Mar 2022 #28

4th picture down NJCher Mar 2022 #42

I am in risk analysis, I know where to look for a quick dive when a topic is raised. Celerity Mar 2022 #44

I've been collecting military firearms (with a WW2 emphasis) for 40 years, hence my interest. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #53

Don't knock it. BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #29

Link? Gaugamela Mar 2022 #30

Just added to the OP, I neglected to put it in originally. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #48

A few other points . . . AverageOldGuy Mar 2022 #31

The photos are of Donbass separatists. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #49

The "slings" appear to be "Y" harnesses, yagotme Mar 2022 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author TeamProg Mar 2022 #35

Got it 7.62 or 3.08 near equivalent. n/t TeamProg Mar 2022 #36

7.62x54R. In the same class as the .30-06. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #50

7.62x54R. yagotme Mar 2022 #54

The New Uniform/boots And Beard DallasNE Mar 2022 #38

The Russian billionaires want the lower classes to fight for them, but they're not willing to spend C Moon Mar 2022 #39

Well, maybe it explains Putin's mentioning the Nazis calimary Mar 2022 #40

Any old weapon will do for point blank shots on women and children. BamaRefugee Mar 2022 #41

Fake news left-of-center2012 Mar 2022 #43

Getting a bit lost in your relative clauses ... Straw Man Mar 2022 #45

The photos are of Donbass separatists, not Russian regulars. Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #51

They dug into the museum for that one sarisataka Mar 2022 #55

As far as I could tell, the rifle itself was manufactured in 1945. M91-30's were typically quite Dial H For Hero Mar 2022 #57