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jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
53. In addition to whatever nefarious means they became successful, they're international.
Thu Mar 17, 2022, 02:26 PM
Mar 2022

It should not surprise people when owners of an "international" company has different priorities than their fellow citizens or their government. Companies such as Koch and most petroleum companies are outlanders wherever they nest.

One of the biggest advantages of trade agreements and "economic communities" is that they define the economic interests of the parties so as to, by design, align with a degree of sympathy for the political priorities of the nations involved. This makes me wonder. Just how invested was British Petroleum in the whole Brexit fiasco? And for that matter, how did I not see clearly before how it is the oil interests of Russia who see a necessary economic windfall in a socio-economically polarized America.

Americans, staring out across imaginary chasms and pointing fingers at each other is the ideal breeding ground and marketplace for all the BAD ideas near and dear to the hearts of fossil fuel magnates. It even encompasses the whole "Joe Manchin: power broker" phenomenon. It's why there is so much popular enmity against the science and science in general. Because science is where the "inconvenient", anti-fossil fuel, facts are supported. The big goal, scoring impotency of intellect onto America pulls most of the world into the imaginary Bizarro Universe where people feel like they're losing and can't find anybody to blame except the "other". THIS is the front of the real war. The one where fossil fuel industries fight against humanity's collective certainty that climate change can and must be turned around. The war in the Ukraine is not about anything except achieving unquestionable access to ROW for pipelines into European electrical generation stations and that requires a congenial Ukrainian government. If it weren't in the pipeline pathway, the Ukraine would be safe to herd its flying democracy unicorns from one end of the rainbow to the other indefinitely.

Of course, I could be wrong.

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So are they operating as they were BEFORE Putrids war or are they suspending some operations? uponit7771 Mar 2022 #1
They are not suspending anything. Business as usual with Russia for Koch. SoonerPride Mar 2022 #6
damn uponit7771 Mar 2022 #54
Didn't they begin their fortune in Russia? nt Samrob Mar 2022 #29
Yeah. GB_RN Mar 2022 #34
Yes, they did, his Dad was in the oil business there. Escurumbele Mar 2022 #36
Yeah, no wonder they support Putin's Concubine ... no doubt boat loads of money streaming from uponit7771 Mar 2022 #55
Yes Cherokee100 Mar 2022 #48
Thanks for posting this leftieNanner Mar 2022 #2
Thanks for the post - -can completely avoid all of those forever except lycra JT45242 Mar 2022 #3
I'v been boycotting them for decades... 2naSalit Mar 2022 #4
+1 n/t ariadne0614 Mar 2022 #8
Same here PatSeg Mar 2022 #16
ditto n/t AmBlue Mar 2022 #18
Same here! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #27
Yep. Same here. On the plus side, maybe they'll send Pinback Mar 2022 #37
Yes, I have avoided those products for some time. TNNurse Mar 2022 #44
Ditto! Juneboarder Mar 2022 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author SoonerPride Mar 2022 #5
Glad to know I've been "Kock" free... orwell Mar 2022 #7
Been boycotting them for many years. niyad Mar 2022 #9
Turns out I'm not a Koch sucker. I don't like any of those brands. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #10
"Koch sucker" Talitha Mar 2022 #11
Bazinga! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #24
Republicans are Koch suckers. live love laugh Mar 2022 #56
Same here! redwitch Mar 2022 #13
Already do. old guy Mar 2022 #12
I used to be a Quilted Northern freak moonscape Mar 2022 #14
K&R Boycott them all to every degree. ffr Mar 2022 #15
Thanks - I've boycotted them for 30 years or maybe longer FakeNoose Mar 2022 #17
Not so sure Traildogbob Mar 2022 #22
Maybe the Metropolitan Museum of Art can remove the Koch plaque from their promenade. Jetheels Mar 2022 #19
Didn't their daddy make his fortune under Stalin? nuxvomica Mar 2022 #20
Yup! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #25
Is there an easy to find reference for this? Trust_Reality Mar 2022 #38
Behind every great fortune is a great crime. OMGWTF Mar 2022 #32
Indeed seta1950 Mar 2022 #46
Yes, they started thermal cracking crude oil in USSR and refineries in Nazi Germany IronLionZion Mar 2022 #42
Yup, they have a long history of working with America's enemies Farmer-Rick Mar 2022 #47
Yes Cherokee100 Mar 2022 #49
We all probably use/purchase a portion of what Flint Hills Resources produces Auggie Mar 2022 #21
K&R! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #23
Owners, board members & corp. Should be added to sanctions list! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #26
Kicking for visibility SheltieLover Mar 2022 #28
How did they wrangle bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #30
Here's a written list that I've been handing out for over a decade. OMGWTF Mar 2022 #31
Is there any DUer from the Wichita KS area KS Toronado Mar 2022 #33
I swore off all these products years ago. NellieStarbuck Mar 2022 #35
I already boycott anything to do with Koch..... SergeStorms Mar 2022 #39
Lycra could be a problem ballardgirl Mar 2022 #40
Already avoid them like the plague they are relayerbob Mar 2022 #41
Haven't bought any of there shit ln twenty years..... turbinetree Mar 2022 #43
I already seta1950 Mar 2022 #45
That's only the latest atrocity by Koch Industries lambchopp59 Mar 2022 #51
The John Birch Society used to be anti-Russian. czarjak Mar 2022 #52
In addition to whatever nefarious means they became successful, they're international. jaxexpat Mar 2022 #53
so much ass wipe TalenaGor Mar 2022 #57
Koch is just a start. Might as well add these 28 American companies to expand the boycott. ancianita Mar 2022 #58
Dunkin' is huge here in Boston, but I have always hated them and have never patronized smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #63
I despise them, too. Sure, boycott. But how do we boycott Archer Daniels Midland in Chicago? ancianita Mar 2022 #64
Who are their subsidiaries? smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #65
Okay, will do. We should all try this. My thing about food industries is this -- People need food. ancianita Mar 2022 #66
Yes, it is a little more difficult with a company like that. smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #67
Chuck makes Dave look like the "good" brother alterfurz Mar 2022 #59
Can't tell where Costco/Kirkland paper towels are made,, Permanut Mar 2022 #60
One of the upsides of being a minimalist/conservationist/environmentalist is... llmart Mar 2022 #61
Thanks for this. skip fox Mar 2022 #62
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