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Response to BaronChocula (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 21, 2022, 10:00 AM

8. I am going to pass on demonizing (even demonizing a devil)

Where that might actually work is to take "independent or undecided" votes away from the thoroughly hijacked repub party and keep or enhance Democratic (in both meanings of the word) control. My opinion.

That might have happened to TFG, when revulsion of one sort or another swayed enough of the "non-base" votes away. Mind you, I use these terms very loosely, because we are in a "for me or against me" situation similar to Vietnam War times, and it took a long time to end that hoax (by people in power) just like other hoax wars.

Indeed, it was calling out Joe McCarthy by Walter Cronkite that diminished his power, but the fact is that he HAD the power. Perhaps Joe Biden/DNC is waiting for a "Watergate Moment" which may come true, but whatever works on an electoral level is what counts. Calling out Agent Orange for 4 years did no good at all until he jumped the shark with his botched covid response and insane coup attempt.

Indeed, calling out McCarthy for all the reasons given might only endear him more to the pitchfork bearing crowd. You know, this entire era of white (anti)Christian male nationalism started in or around that district in CA. You know the names, starting with John Birch.

POWER MATTERS. Calling out pigs doesn't affect them at all. They are politicians, after all.
Yes, the calling out is necessary. I think --- in an electoral context.
And that's why they loaded up on media --- to cancel such things as much as possible.

THE ULTIMATE REASON I SAY THIS is because I was deeply affected by "Stamped from the Beginning" by Ibram X. Kendi. At the end of the book, he goes into "hearts and minds" arguments and knocks them down. The only progress we have made (in the context of racism, the defining force of the Republican Party and much of America ... sad to say) is by being in power and making it a crime, and it looks like we have to start all over, since electoral bullshit installed a reactionary court. I wonder how many of Clarence's admirers wouldn't just ***** him for being the "wrong" color, and no more than a useful idiot.

From Kendi: Epilogue to Stamped From the Beginning.

But protesting racist policies can never be a long-term solution to eradicating racial discrimination—and thus racist ideas—in America. Just as one generation of powerful Americans could decide or be pressured by protest to end racial discrimination, when the conditions and interests change, another generation could once again encourage racial discrimination. That’s why protesting against racist power has been a never-ending affair in America.

Protesting against racist power and succeeding can never be mistaken for seizing power. Any effective solution to eradicating American racism must involve Americans committed to antiracist policies seizing and maintaining power over institutions, neighborhoods, counties, states, nations—the world. It makes no sense to sit back and put the future in the hands of people committed to racist policies, or people who regularly sail with the wind of self-interest, toward racism today, toward antiracism tomorrow. An antiracist America can only be guaranteed if principled antiracists are in power, and then antiracist policies become the law of the land, and then antiracist ideas become the common sense of the people, and then the antiracist common sense of the people holds those antiracist leaders and policies accountable.

And to that point, I say: READ MY GOTV PAGE.
Don't kvetch, Kick Butt!

Kevin in the minority, Munchkin and Enema made irrelevant by THE FIFTY SEVEN VOTES IN THE SENATE (or more) are going to right the ship.

I am not knocking any of your points, but unless we have real majority power, reflecting the real majority in the U.S., then protesting is all we have, and it is a long, bitter uphill effort. White Male Christo-Fascists are a dwindling minority. That's why they are squealing like stuck pigs. THEY CAN'T BE GIVEN MINORITY RULE. AGAIN!

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