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KY_EnviroGuy

(14,758 posts)
32. Beautiful sentiment but somewhat contradicted by the Wiki...
Tue Mar 22, 2022, 05:34 AM
Mar 2022
Flag of Ukraine

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Ukraine#History

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The roots of Ukrainian national symbols come from pre-Christian times when yellow and blue prevailed in traditional ceremonies, reflecting fire and water. The most solid proof of yellow and blue colours can be traced back as far as the Battle of Grunwald in 1410, in which militia formations from various lands of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth participated.

Yellow–blue, red-black, crimson-olive and especially raspberry colour banners were widely used by Cossacks between the 16th and 18th centuries. These were not the only possible combinations, since normally Cossacks would fly their hetman's banners, which were similar to the coats of arms of the nobility. Also, yellow and blue were the colours common on coats of arms in Galicia. In fact, the coat of arms of Lviv to this day remains a golden lion on a blue field.

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Yellow-blue vs blue-yellow

Ukrainians commonly refer to the flag as "yellow and light blue", a different version of the flag used during UNR (Ukrainian National Republic) years (1917–1921) with yellow on the top and blue on the bottom. The yellow on the top allegedly represents golden domes (cupolas) of Christian churches and the blue the Dnieper river.

Although most Ukrainians identify their flag in the spoken language as "yellow and light blue", the current flag in reality is blue (the upper band) and yellow (the lower band). The issue is quite significant, because the historical alteration of the flag (from yellow–blue to blue–yellow) did not affect the spoken language.[citation needed] Back in 1848, the flag was yellow and blue,[citation needed] and it was later changed to blue and yellow to be more appealing to the common person.[citation needed] A common explanation of "blue sky above yellow field of wheat" was invented around that time, as Ukraine is considered Europe's breadbasket, or "blue sky over sunflowers," which is their national flower.[citation needed] Although this evocation of a Ukrainian landscape has nothing to do with the choice of colours or the history of the original yellow and blue, it has formed the Ukrainians' conception of their flag.


As with all things human, plenty of opinions and reasoning to go around but I do commend your grandchild for being so observant and for thinking about Ukraine!


KY........

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K & R SunSeeker Mar 2022 #1
Lovely post Deuxcents Mar 2022 #2
The two colors have a very long history with different meanings than current version. Donkees Mar 2022 #3
State colors of Delaware and my alma mater Walleye Mar 2022 #26
I'm referring to the origins and history of the Ukrainian flag Donkees Mar 2022 #30
Me too! Dr. Skull Mar 2022 #33
My alma mater UCLA too LymphocyteLover Mar 2022 #48
Yes. I lived in LA in the 70s. Renewed my fanship of the Rams this year Walleye Mar 2022 #49
Sunflower is the state flower of Kansas. DURHAM D Mar 2022 #4
Winter wheat brought to Kansas from immigrants deminks Mar 2022 #8
Amen. DURHAM D Mar 2022 #9
I travel in KS a lot FoxNewsSucks Mar 2022 #16
Many of those German settlers around Hays DURHAM D Mar 2022 #18
Nope, FoxNewsSucks Mar 2022 #20
One of my Great Grandfathers owned a post-rock quarry. DURHAM D Mar 2022 #27
Interesting- I looked up post rocks and found this link explaining their history: wishstar Mar 2022 #31
See these Rebl2 Mar 2022 #34
Growing up in Hays I was always told KS Toronado Mar 2022 #40
What about bierocks? DURHAM D Mar 2022 #42
LOL, lots of bierocks around here KS Toronado Mar 2022 #45
See my post down thread. DURHAM D Mar 2022 #21
Picture does tend to look like Kansas KS Toronado Mar 2022 #10
I think Ellis County had the largest number of DURHAM D Mar 2022 #15
My parents were members of the local Volga German Society KS Toronado Mar 2022 #41
What a cool story. DURHAM D Mar 2022 #44
That's a cool story also! KS Toronado Mar 2022 #46
Oh YES! Cha Mar 2022 #5
Stunning beauty. Traildogbob Mar 2022 #6
While it has absolutely nothing to do with Ukraine, or Ukrainians and their plight... BobTheSubgenius Mar 2022 #7
In Romania, In Eastern Europe, the Country That Gave Us the Pan Flute, panfluteman Mar 2022 #11
It's beautiful!!! Or at least it WAS:( Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2022 #12
---and there's the story of the grandmother who gave sunflower seeds to incoming Russian soldiers... 3Hotdogs Mar 2022 #13
Look what I found - DURHAM D Mar 2022 #19
Thanks for posting that FoxNewsSucks Mar 2022 #22
Looks like we shared game changing crops. nt. deminks Mar 2022 #23
I like that - Game changing crops. nt DURHAM D Mar 2022 #25
---and there's the story of the grandmother who gave sunflower seeds to incoming Russian soldiers... 3Hotdogs Mar 2022 #14
You have to love any nation that bases it's flag on natures beauty ny Javaman Mar 2022 #17
...blue and yellow as a symbol of Ukraine comes from the flag of the Kingdom of Galicia-Volhynia. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #24
Love the information. thank you. Mira Mar 2022 #28
Little Ukraine (Kansas) deserves better than this - DURHAM D Mar 2022 #29
Just doing Rebl2 Mar 2022 #35
Beautiful sentiment but somewhat contradicted by the Wiki... KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2022 #32
One of my great-grandfathers (2nd or 3rd) came from Bukovina tikka Mar 2022 #36
Thank you for posting this. DURHAM D Mar 2022 #47
Someone from Ft Hays State did a paper on the Bukovina immigrants tikka Mar 2022 #50
Thank you Mira and Durham D for your excellent discussion of Kansas/Ukraine connection. patphil Mar 2022 #37
One of my personal photos from my visit to Ukraine in 2019. Tommy Carcetti Mar 2022 #38
And a few more: Tommy Carcetti Mar 2022 #39
Those are gorgeous! llmart Mar 2022 #52
I'm growing sunflowers this season FakeNoose Mar 2022 #43
Cool! lunatica Mar 2022 #51
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