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25. I agree, Yanis makes some points that are worthy of consideration
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:53 PM
Mar 2022

As much as I detest what Putin has done, perhaps backing him into a corner is not the best strategy. Here's the key quote from the interview:

AMY GOODMAN: So, explain this further. You’re saying Biden should be sitting down with Putin, that Biden represents the United States, the world’s largest superpower, and could lead to a ceasefire. What isn’t he doing?

YANIS VAROUFAKIS: That. Look, I wish — as a European and a Europeanist and internationalist, I wish the European Union existed in substance, so that, you know, the president of the European Union could be sitting down with Putin. But we don’t have that. The European Union is a disunion, really. So, Biden is the only representative of NATO, of the West at the moment. I’m not going to pass judgment on the gentleman. He is, however, the only one who can sit down with Putin. They can talk on the phone, to begin with, before they actually sit down. Their foreign ministers will have to come to these exchanges.

But the idea must be really very simple: Putin must be given a golden bridge from which to escape his conundrum. He must be given something he can sell to his own people as mission accomplished. The only thing we can do, as democrats and internationalists, we should be able to tolerate, is the neutrality of the Ukraine, because this is a tiny, tiny, nonexistent price to pay for ending the war, having Russian troops evacuate the Ukraine, some kind of arrangement to be established for the Donbas area — we could kick into the long grass the question of Crimea; it could be shelved, something to be discussed in 10 years or so — in order to stop the killing and to stop the toxicity which is spreading from Ukraine across Europe, across the United States. I’ve been hearing senators in the United States, members of parliament of various European countries calling for NATO to intervene — because we know what that will mean. It will mean that the nuclear threat is going to reach levels that we haven’t seen since the Cuban Missile Crisis. We should be moving towards a rational solution that will leave everybody slightly dissatisfied — the Ukrainians, the Russians, me, you, Biden, Putin — but which will end the killing and will lead to an independent, democratic Ukraine.

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I stopped watching deRien Mar 2022 #1
Don't care for her particularly, leans too Sanders and libertarian for my tastes...nt wcmagumba Mar 2022 #2
The transcript shows a nuance that your description does not... vanlassie Mar 2022 #3
Thanks for sharing that link. Exactly what I figured. (n/t) SMC22307 Mar 2022 #5
I don't see the nuance...just pro-putin guy with ties to Russian most likely Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #9
I listened too and failed to hear the nuance. jrthin Mar 2022 #18
I agree, Yanis makes some points that are worthy of consideration al bupp Mar 2022 #25
Bunch of fucking bullshit jcgoldie Mar 2022 #26
Who was "some guy"? I'd like to listen to the interview. (n/t) SMC22307 Mar 2022 #4
I don't care for her or her show...anti-Democratic Party often. Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #6
Yes, I watched most of that interview. Crunchy Frog Mar 2022 #7
anything can be overdone RussBLib Mar 2022 #8
You know that 'Democracy Now" murielm99 Mar 2022 #10
I find her very informative. Some will find her offensive because she interviewed Bernie Emile Mar 2022 #11
I like Amy Goodman and her delivery style. I never thought of her as a pundit but walkingman Mar 2022 #12
Years ago I was fan of "the Nation" publication as well--until Katrina vanden Heuvel turned it over hlthe2b Mar 2022 #13
Lost respect for her and the show because of Bernie support. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #14
Blame America First is a thing on her end of the spectrum BeyondGeography Mar 2022 #15
She'd be at home at JPR IMO. Kaleva Mar 2022 #16
I like her. As far as I know she's not beholden to big corporate sponsors. jalan48 Mar 2022 #17
The American president doesn't get to dictate the foreign policy of sovereign nations DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2022 #19
I don't like her. She has been pushing anti-Democratic party talking points for some time now JohnSJ Mar 2022 #20
I just started to watch her a few months ago, then had to get away from all news for my sanity. BoomaofBandM Mar 2022 #21
She's great on many things but she does fall into that whole Downtown Hound Mar 2022 #22
In Houston the KKK bombed the Pacifica Network radio transmitter twice when I was a teen pecosbob Mar 2022 #23
Love her, met her, and donate to the show. broiles Mar 2022 #24
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