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In reply to the discussion: I was so wrong in assuming that Russian soldiers hold the same values as we soldiers have in west [View all]Igel
(37,563 posts)If reporters went into an area that the US pulled out of and saw a Bucha scene, we'd have heard it for a long time.
We have truly bad actors. But far fewer such incidents, and even fewer that are intentional in their results.
Take the killing of the aid worker in late August in Kabul. That may arguably have been a sloppy killing of civilians, but I haven't heard a serious claim that the US wanted to kill civilians.
I'd say that we do fewer such things now than in the '60s. Better guidance systems, better satellites, better control processes. Russia lacks a lot of those, but Bucha wasn't from 10k feet, it was from 3 feet.
I'd also say that we much less likely to go to the extremes that we see claimed in Bucha and such places. And when there are extremes and intentional cruelty, they're usually investigated and punished. Take a report I heard that looked at the worst of the worst done in Iraq--a small, small percent of the overall number of incidents, and even then the investigative reporter, spending a year on it, found sloppiness and bad assumptions but no case where somebody intended to kill civilians, much less kill them in a truly horrible manner. Except for reports of incidents that were few and punished.
Seriously, pulling teeth out of teen boys' mouths for sport and torture?