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EndlessWire

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Sun Apr 3, 2022, 04:32 PM Apr 2022

So, Odessa was shelled. [View all]

Odessa was reported to be a key objective in Russia's war efforts. So, it looks like they may have started on Odessa, by shelling from warships in the Azov. Those weren't errant shells.

The style of fighting that Russia has shown is a giant war crime. Apparently, they think that bombing the cities to rubble, and terrorizing the civilian populations, is the thing to do. The peace talks seem pointless to me, as Putin is a liar and seems to have no intent whatsoever to hold legitimate talks. Saying, Surrender everything, is not a negotiation. I don't want Zelensky to meet with Putin at all. It is too dangerous, and pointless. Ukraine is not going to surrender.

I am not allowed to say what I really think here at DU. I was censored for that, and cannot argue. But, let me just say, in my wildest fantasy, I picture a "30-seconds over Tokyo" type of raid. Can I say that? They will let me know. I have a longing for retribution against Moscow and Putin.

The war is not over. I think that someone should send the Hague a complaint delineating all the war crimes that Russia is committing against civilian populations in these cities. NATO and the UN do not want to expand to WW3, which is well and good. And, I know that we are squeezing the life out of Russia and its buddies. Well, maybe not China, yet. But, it isn't stopping Russia from shelling cities that it has heretofore left alone. Russia is seeking control of that corridor come hell or high water.

Since this is turning into all cosplay, with pretend hands off to avoid WW3, why can't someone give Ukraine a couple of warships of their own, or a sub, or something, to distract the Russians from destroying Odessa?

I dunno, I'm awfully sad today. This is the turning point of the world's opinion. Russia will never be forgiven for this, although we forgave Germany and Japan and now we are friends. I don't think we are ever going to forgive Russia for this. It is up to the Russian people to take down Putin and his thugs. But, I think the consequences for the average Russian is far greater than when other countries have protested their own governments aggression. Still, it's the price you pay for being free.

Putin is a dictator. Death to all dictators. People shall be free.

Ukraine,


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So, Odessa was shelled. [View all] EndlessWire Apr 2022 OP
A "safe passage" of cargo vessels in the Black Sea enforced by Nato is my wish Tetrachloride Apr 2022 #1
I wish for EndlessWire Apr 2022 #3
I wish they had a small EMP drone Mr. Evil Apr 2022 #14
Very interesting approach to the problem. n/t EndlessWire Apr 2022 #15
It basically already is. Calista241 Apr 2022 #24
I meant the entire Black Sea. Not just a door. Tetrachloride Apr 2022 #26
Yes, all of this is correct. EndlessWire Apr 2022 #28
Depending on the day (and time of day) my views can be a bit extreme. Igel Apr 2022 #2
I honestly don't know how we avoid engagement at this point. Honestly. Much of the food supply hlthe2b Apr 2022 #4
+1 femmedem Apr 2022 #5
well said. Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #13
Yes. This is right on point. I like Fahreed Zaharia's interview AllyCat Apr 2022 #27
Shocking that there are so many missiles & artillery to keep doing this. mysteryowl Apr 2022 #6
I've mentioned striking the Kremlin too. Its about 270mi from the border. oldsoftie Apr 2022 #7
Then we need to give them the capability. n/t EndlessWire Apr 2022 #33
Yes, this is massacre and destruction. raging moderate Apr 2022 #8
With Putin gone our two countries could be friends lunatica Apr 2022 #9
A nuclear submarine gaskinite Apr 2022 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Nululu Apr 2022 #11
Flying Tigers of WWII, Lincoln brigade Nululu Apr 2022 #12
Forgive Russia?? Tucker and the RePutinicans in this country side with them. NoMoreRepugs Apr 2022 #16
Odessa is on the Black Sea, not the Sea of Azov. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #17
I have no doubt EndlessWire Apr 2022 #21
In regard to Russia I can't say what I think either. onecaliberal Apr 2022 #22
I believe NATO will eventually be forced to act because the atrocities will be too great. Lonestarblue Apr 2022 #18
Send A Few Anti-ship Harpoon Missiles To Ukraine n/t DallasNE Apr 2022 #19
The war has to be taken to Russia. marie999 Apr 2022 #20
Agreed Calculating Apr 2022 #31
Just an FYI, it is now spelled Odesa (westernized Ukrainian spelling, like Kyiv). smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #23
Thanks for the FYI. Washington Post still calls it Odessa; NYTimes called it Odesa today. femmedem Apr 2022 #30
Yes, TY! n/t EndlessWire Apr 2022 #32
We need to start supplying OUR oil to Russia's former customers FakeNoose Apr 2022 #25
Anyone who goes to a a peace talk Meowmee Apr 2022 #29
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