Russia's excuse for the atrocity

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10. In some respects this reminds me of Serbia

in the '90's. I know China would veto the expulsion of Russia from the UN but maybe the UN needs to expel both and replace them with Ukraine and maybe a country like the Czech Republic or one of the other countries who suffered for decades behind the Iron Curtain. Maybe issue recognition again to Taiwan and put them on the Security Council too.

The General Assembly can vote on its' own to suspend countries from participation in the business of the UN without it being a suspension/expulsion under the normal rules for that action. They've done it before as in the case of South Africa. The Security Council vetoed suspension/expulsion under the formal rules but the General Assembly voted to suspend them from the work of the Assembly. That lasted for 20 years. So in other words they would technically still be in the club they just couldn't say or do anything regarding UN activities. I really don't see where Russia and China really bring anything positive to the UN and it really seems like they use it for manipulation and cover. China would be very angry about being shown up in this way. So be it. If they are so concerned about their precious image and pride then they should act in a manner consistent with a good image and actions to be proud of rather than enabling Russia to continue to slaughter civilians and knowingly commit war crimes.