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Chainfire

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43. When I was a kid, growing up in rural America
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 11:39 AM
Apr 2022

Last edited Mon Apr 4, 2022, 12:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Most families had a shotgun and a rifle. (we had no firearms at home) Some families had an old revolver in the house. The rifle was for harvesting deer, the shotgun was for small game and the revolver spent most of its time in a dresser drawer. You had to convince a sheriff or judge that you had a good reason to carry a pistol on your person, so few people did. The guns were primarily for recreational hunting. Ammo supplies would have typically an open box of shells or cartridges, and a box of "deer" rounds would last usually more than one season.

Today, it is much different. Most people claim to have guns for "protection." I suspect that a typical neighbor will have the firearms mentioned above plus at least one semi-auto pistol and one or more semi-auto, removable, high-capacity magazine rifles; typically a lot more than just one... Instead of an open box of ammo, they will feel "unarmed" without ten thousand rounds stashed in an old ammo can, and maybe more buried out back, "just in case." Most adults will have a concealed weapons permit and will carry their guns whenever they go out in public; again to protect themselves from bad guys with guns... The additional weapons in the modern arsenal (and they are weapons as opposed to tools) are in preparation for the SHTF scenarios that they are sure are coming. After all they will have to protect their families from all of those blacks, browns and liberals who are coming for their guns and their freedom; and if not to directly "protect" their families, there will probably come a day when they need to return the people of color liberals, athiests, Jews and other Untermensch in their proper places in society.

Hateful propaganda, beginning with radio shows, and continuing on TV has fostered the change in people's attitudes. Hate radio and the NRA has done more for the gun and ammo business than all of the direct advertising that they could ever buy. Guns haven't changed as much as people.

Area level pre crime software has worked for robberies etc, should work for shootings uponit7771 Apr 2022 #1
What is that? radicalleft Apr 2022 #2
It's not pyscic driven software like Minority Report but data drive and it works (link) uponit7771 Apr 2022 #4
Interesting... radicalleft Apr 2022 #22
A combination of all of them. gibraltar72 Apr 2022 #3
Definitely need a culture change Amishman Apr 2022 #75
the founding fathers gave us the mechanism- we only have to use it Blues Heron Apr 2022 #5
It's been almost a century since an amendment was repealed. The political will to replace or modify Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #9
Yes I know - but nevertheless, the mechanism is there Blues Heron Apr 2022 #11
Technically possible, but the chances of getting 38 out of 50 state legislatures to approve Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #15
still though, people should realize the founding fathers did not want daily massacres Blues Heron Apr 2022 #17
We won't. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #6
Sayz man with more than his share of gunz. Those who support/promote unrestricted gunz are problem. Hoyt Apr 2022 #29
I'm curious, how many "gunz" constitute more than my share? Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #31
Not a shock! Lol USALiberal Apr 2022 #76
taxing ammo is not enough. Beastly Boy Apr 2022 #7
Guns didn't just jump up and shoot, 15 year mandatory min for any gun involvement in crime for perps Shanti Shanti Shanti Apr 2022 #8
Wouldn't it be easier to just nuke them from space? LiberatedUSA Apr 2022 #42
lasers Celerity Apr 2022 #47
This would be...interesting to see in practice. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #52
I think that ship has sailed. Srkdqltr Apr 2022 #10
If you look at Japan, Australia and New Zealand, you can see a model for us to follow one day Blues Heron Apr 2022 #14
People Control, Not Gun Control Sancho Apr 2022 #12
Go to another country that enforces some sort of Meowmee Apr 2022 #13
Thoughts and prayers bif Apr 2022 #16
It is difficult and expensive to legally own automatic weapons: Doc_Technical Apr 2022 #18
That would put at least half of the firearms in private hands under the NFA. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #20
You can't stop it PJMcK Apr 2022 #19
Reminded of Jed Bartlet in debate (West Wing) MissMillie Apr 2022 #21
Pandora's box has been opened. Ain't no putting the genie back in. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2022 #23
Only a sea-change in society can save souls sanatanadharma Apr 2022 #24
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #67
Prevention, but not around the guns themselves; that horse is out of the barn. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2022 #25
I think we have to go back to hard lawnforcement Hangingon Apr 2022 #26
Stop and Frisk was a blatant violation of the 4th Amendment. NutmegYankee Apr 2022 #30
"Constitution, smonstitution...who cares?" seems to be the attitude of many. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #33
I think it can be handled without violation of the 4th amendment Hangingon Apr 2022 #40
Gun ownership in NYC has been heavily restricted for decades brooklynite Apr 2022 #45
Yes. The famous Sullivan Act. Basically the same for Chicago. Hangingon Apr 2022 #49
Given that I'm a "gun nut", I'm curious how you propose "going after" me, given that the measures Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #54
I am certainly not going after you Hangingon Apr 2022 #62
I misunderstood, my bad. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #65
I no problem Hangingon Apr 2022 #68
I no problem Hangingon Apr 2022 #69
Are you saying you desire the end of the 4th Amendment? NutmegYankee Apr 2022 #51
I was trying to point out that denying rights is a dangerous idea Hangingon Apr 2022 #58
Make ammo hard to get. Without bullets guns are just paper weights. Hotler Apr 2022 #27
Ammunition is certainly part of the "arms" of "keep and bear arms". Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #28
The recent Illinois supreme court ruling went there Amishman Apr 2022 #81
Require participation in a well-regulated militia maxsolomon Apr 2022 #32
Will this also apply to the elderly and those with physical disabilities? Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #34
Yes. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #36
"No guns for you. You're in a wheelchair, after all." Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #44
Was I not clear? maxsolomon Apr 2022 #46
Militia training presumably includes things such as basic infantry tactics while wearing full field Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #48
Crimony. You're just relentless. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #57
Well, it's not as if you put forth a serious proposal, after all. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #60
And it seems you are happy about it. Nt USALiberal Apr 2022 #80
Yeah, so what? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #82
And? Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #85
Now that range time is mandatory, do I get free ammo and targets? Hangingon Apr 2022 #70
If that's how it works, I'm taking my .577 Snider-Enfield. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #71
Let's ask for mileage Hangingon Apr 2022 #72
In for a penny... Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #73
FFS, really? USALiberal Apr 2022 #79
Really. When someone proposes something that's absurd on the face of it amuses me Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #87
This message was self-deleted by its author Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #35
Its one of the many social wedges issues Republicans use to try and divide us. Mr. Sparkle Apr 2022 #37
Serious gun control will have to wait for a reset of the country. Chainfire Apr 2022 #38
Let's cool down the appeal of guns. Hangingon Apr 2022 #50
How exactly do you do that in the face of the 1st Amendment? Chainfire Apr 2022 #55
Hell, just check out that huge ongoing thread wherein many are calling for the 1st Amendment Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #61
Make it socially impossible Hangingon Apr 2022 #63
Here's the trick, though. People (on the whole) really enjoy gun violence in films, games, etc. Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #66
Ridicule only works in some locations Amishman Apr 2022 #83
I know.....So why not just cut to the chase, and repeal the 2nd? Chainfire Apr 2022 #64
How do propose doing that? Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #59
We can't 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2022 #39
Serous answer... sarisataka Apr 2022 #41
It is a scary world we live in radicalleft Apr 2022 #56
When I was a kid, growing up in rural America Chainfire Apr 2022 #43
This is a great read! radicalleft Apr 2022 #53
Sandy Hook happened. and nothing changed. /nt IcyPeas Apr 2022 #74
It isn't possible in this country. Prepare for the fact that it's only going to get worse. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #77
Guns have very little to do with causing gun violence Zeitghost Apr 2022 #78
My great grandmothers were Wild West. hunter Apr 2022 #84
I'm 60 years old with Parkinson's. I'm not outrunning anyone ... Dial H For Hero Apr 2022 #86
Life sentance manicdem Apr 2022 #88
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