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EndlessWire

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Mon Apr 4, 2022, 05:24 PM Apr 2022

The Security Council will meet [View all]

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tomorrow at 10 a.m. ET to discuss the Bucha atrocity.

The UN Permanent Representative for the Russian Federation, Vasily Nebenzya, held a press conference today instead of the "emergency" meeting he was denied.

He was pretty furious over getting denied an immediate meeting at the UNSC over Bucha. He used words like "unbelievable, shameful, unprecedented, unthinkable, abusive, condescending, undermining, disgraceful, staining, demonstration of weakness, Western-backed provocation" to characterize the denial of his request.

Apparently, the UK is now presiding over the Council, and Barbara Woodward, the Permanent Representative who now holds that chair, decided that the Security Council wanted a "more informed meeting or briefing," and that this matter "was not really an emergency," and also that there was "no reason for the emergency meeting." LOL. Russia had a tantrum over it.

All the expected lies poured forth at this presser. Russia is using lies as truth. They feel that because they say so, it must be the truth. There is that old joke about, We know it's a lie because his lips are moving.

A reporter asked a question, and revealed that the US is pursuing suspension of Russia from the Human Rights Council of the UN. She asked what did he think about that, and he responded that the Human Rights Council wasn't their (cup of tea.) Oh, really...

Their proof consists of really superficial details that have no smoking gun quality to them. They want to use videos of jubilant soldiers and civilians to say that there was no evidence of atrocities in the immediate aftermath of Russia getting kicked out of Kiev. He claimed the bodies on the streets had no signs of decomposition, so they must be staged. etc. etc. etc. He promised even more evidence at tomorrow's UNSC meeting.

But, I think he shot himself in the foot. He went that "bridge too far." He ranted on about how Russian soldiers would ask if they could shoot someone, and they were told, "Of course." He said that the citizens were wearing stripes (I think he meant arm bands) which color coded them from civilian to soldier. If you were wearing a blue or yellow stripe, you were a soldier; if you were wearing white or nothing, you were a civilian. But, he messed up because he said that soldiers asked if they could shoot people without a blue stripe, and they were told, "Yes."

He also said, as a defense, that "this is war" and civilians get killed. Well, at least he admitted that it was a war, and not some special action--whatever Russia said it was.

Sorry, but this is chilling and sobering. This is AWFUL. Talk about Nazis...

Another reporter said that she had learned that Ukraine has announced that there is another city, Bora...something...that was FAR WORSE than Bucha, with people killed or executed, after the Russian withdrawal, and the PR of the Russian Federation said he did not know anything about that. I imagine we will eventually hear of it, perhaps tomorrow.

Another reporter asked if the Ukrainian civilians that had been interviewed were lying when they said they watched their loved ones being shot by Russian soldiers, were those statements also fake, and he didn't give much of an answer.

If you have watched Barbara Woodward, PR of the UK at the UN, speaking in the past, you will know that she is very forceful in her speeches. She isn't demonstrating "weakness" at all. And, now she is presiding for one month. Too bad, Vasily.

You should watch this presser, if you can.

Who shot these civilians? Who buried them in a mass grave? They didn't shoot themselves. These are crimes against humanity committed by Russian troops in the name of Russia.

And yeah, there have been other countries, in other times, my own included, where atrocities have been committed in the name of war. But, this is now, and we have a chance to speak up against it. We have a chance to challenge this dreadful circumstance, and change this PR war where everything gets whitewashed. It's not acceptable for this to happen, just because it's WAR.

You started this, Russia. It's on you.

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The Security Council will meet [View all] EndlessWire Apr 2022 OP
A firm KnR. Hugin Apr 2022 #1
And another... n/t Hugin Apr 2022 #2
As long as Russia maintains a veto, these meetings are merely political theatre, LonePirate Apr 2022 #3
I think the entire discussion group EndlessWire Apr 2022 #5
Well put. n/t Hugin Apr 2022 #7
Yes, the UN could establish a force for Ukraine just as it did with Kuwait. Lonestarblue Apr 2022 #8
The UN GA can't compel the UN to do anything. former9thward Apr 2022 #14
Agreed. Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #18
You Cannot Underestimate the Value of Truth TomCADem Apr 2022 #15
Is there a mechanism to kick out a country? Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #17
Kick their fking asses out! They are not the USSR. SheltieLover Apr 2022 #4
Exactly right FakeNoose Apr 2022 #10
Likely only there to get otherwise secret info & to veto. SheltieLover Apr 2022 #12
Thanks for the report. 58Sunliner Apr 2022 #6
K & R icymist Apr 2022 #9
The UN is designed as a way for diplomacy to have a chance... at least a place to blow off steam Tetrachloride Apr 2022 #11
It would be nice for diplomacy to work. mwooldri Apr 2022 #13
What is Russia going to veto? TomCADem Apr 2022 #16
I wanted Putin declared a war criminal EndlessWire Apr 2022 #19
If Hague/ICC Did Not Declare Him A War Criminal, Does That Mean... TomCADem Apr 2022 #22
Yes, I agree. EndlessWire Apr 2022 #24
Expel Russia from the UNSC. lpbk2713 Apr 2022 #20
Russia feels the heat. EndlessWire Apr 2022 #21
Russia is using lies as truth. Celerity Apr 2022 #23
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