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Sympthsical

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45. Beware Happy Talk

Sun Apr 10, 2022, 11:23 AM

Apr 2022

"People are saying things I don't like, and they should stop that," has rarely served us well. There is always caterwauling about why the media haven't framed this or that story exactly as a partisan would prefer. I see this week it's the NYT, which is a pretty liberal paper all things considered, but some people have convinced themselves is some right-wing behemoth. Which, just lol.

The irony of calling other people purists, really.

I can think of a recent unnamed election where only Happy Talk was allowed, and the people who were pointing out, "Hey, this may not end well," were thanked for their concern and dismissed.

New idea: Embrace reality, good and bad, and proceed accordingly.

Happy Talk is for fan magazines, not for serious policy and politics.

I'm not one to clap for Tinkerbell. I will give her a crutch where I'm able, however. But some people really are all about the clapping as their scientific approach.

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Beware those carrying fear, uncertainty and doubt about Democrats. [View all] yardwork Apr 2022 OP

The propaganda of which you speak, gab13by13 Apr 2022 #1

Them too. The New York Times, for instance. yardwork Apr 2022 #2

Read The Gurardian Joinfortmill Apr 2022 #50

One might think they want Republicans to win mcar Apr 2022 #4

That is their only goal. There's great power in having a single goal. yardwork Apr 2022 #9

I think to a large degree there is corporate interests at work here. JohnSJ Apr 2022 #11

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 The M$M did the EXACT SAME THING to Obama economy. Its NOT just the economy uponit7771 Apr 2022 #32

The chorus grows louder every midterm election mcar Apr 2022 #3

Same all over. Following is some interesting stuff on French politics Strelnikov_ Apr 2022 #13

The right wing creates this crisis and then blames the left. yardwork Apr 2022 #16

And the MSM wakes up every morning and says mcar Apr 2022 #21

Because their goals align! yardwork Apr 2022 #25

And apathetic and uninformed voters fall for it ... over and over. BTW, KPN Apr 2022 #59

+1, ... and Obama and Biden have proven it CAN NOT be the "economy stupid". There's something ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #33

Blaming the Democrats for "poor messaging" is one of the tricks. yardwork Apr 2022 #39

Correct, its not that dems don't need a Stacy Abrams program in every CoC we do. That's operational uponit7771 Apr 2022 #64

I agree on all points. yardwork Apr 2022 #68

It's getting louder and louder too. brer cat Apr 2022 #5

The "Biden didn't give me my pony" crowd mcar Apr 2022 #8

Why are you picking on the left side of the party??? We NEED Unity. Tommymac Apr 2022 #17

Why are people on the left picking on the President mcar Apr 2022 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Tommymac Apr 2022 #34

Nice try mcar Apr 2022 #35

Please tell that to those slamming the Biden Cha Apr 2022 #76

Speaking of..."but he didn't do this." KS Toronado Apr 2022 #26

Too busy looking for Hillary's emails and criticizing Obama's tan suit. yardwork Apr 2022 #28

Yep mcar Apr 2022 #29

Are you saying we Dems radiate a righteousness beyond self-critique? Magoo48 Apr 2022 #6

Excellent question! Emile Apr 2022 #7

Is it possible and advisable to engage in self-reflection without electing Republicans? yardwork Apr 2022 #12

One might almost think that some FoxNewsSucks Apr 2022 #38

An inventory of what's working and what isn't is essential for individual as well as group growth. Magoo48 Apr 2022 #66

The insanity of it all. "Disappointed Biden can't get things done because of Congress". Pobeka Apr 2022 #10

I agree 100%. We endanger our goals by detracting from our successes. MineralMan Apr 2022 #14

I miss Howard Dean and his 50 state strategy. yardwork Apr 2022 #15

Yes. The Democratic Party is becoming a fragmented party. MineralMan Apr 2022 #18

I agree 100% yardwork Apr 2022 #19

"Trumpet our successes" jaxexpat Apr 2022 #22

LOL! MineralMan Apr 2022 #23

Those are all true statements, FoxNewsSucks Apr 2022 #44

I think you may have misunderstood my OP. yardwork Apr 2022 #48

I agree with you, and it's a good point FoxNewsSucks Apr 2022 #56

Well said, yardwork! I didn't Cha Apr 2022 #77

Mahalo, Cha! yardwork Apr 2022 #80

Yes, but right-wing players are using FUD to stir up MineralMan Apr 2022 #63

And authoritarianism marches forward.... jalan48 Apr 2022 #24

You want to see authoritarianism in action see what happens if Republicans get control. yardwork Apr 2022 #27

Authoritarian speak is authoritarian speak. jalan48 Apr 2022 #30

If you're accusing me of authoritarian speak please be specific. yardwork Apr 2022 #31

"Beware those carrying fear, uncertainty and doubt about Democrats" jalan48 Apr 2022 #36

Laugh. Out. Loud. yardwork Apr 2022 #37

So, Democrat's doubting other Democrats is ok? jalan48 Apr 2022 #41

Fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) has a specific meaning. yardwork Apr 2022 #43

Just curious, can you say it's ok for Democrats to doubt other Democrats? jalan48 Apr 2022 #46

What's the context? yardwork Apr 2022 #57

Exactly, it's contextual. It's easy to move from a special context to "all" very easily. If you are jalan48 Apr 2022 #58

Yes, in certain situations it's damn necessary. Magoo48 Apr 2022 #67

Manchin votes with Biden's legislation 95% of the time, and Sinema's votes align with 97% yardwork Apr 2022 #69

It is essential we debate how to protect ourselves from their future clones. Magoo48 Apr 2022 #71

There are two ways to approach it. yardwork Apr 2022 #73

Say the Dems are useless and can't get anything done is as ridiculous as ignoring our weak spots. Magoo48 Apr 2022 #74

Only because we don't bring the bills they will vote against to the floor questionseverything Apr 2022 #82

That is far from authoritarian mcar Apr 2022 #40

This is authoritarianism in action: yardwork Apr 2022 #42

There's NO "Authoritarian" Going ON HERE! Cha Apr 2022 #79

Nothing in the OP is against competition in primaries. You misconstrue Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #49

Thanks for this. When I see warnings beginning with "Beware" I think it's important to be as jalan48 Apr 2022 #51

Okay. YOUR post #24 was really very unspecific. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #55

Thank you. yardwork Apr 2022 #53

+1 betsuni Apr 2022 #87

the OP should direct this to the Lamb campaign, imo. nt druidity33 Apr 2022 #88

Further, the OP was not about DU or D vs D but much wider in scope, about the media etc Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #52

What Are you TALKING ABOUT?! Cha Apr 2022 #78

Beware Happy Talk Sympthsical Apr 2022 #45

Actually people are saying things that are not accurate, such as your assumption that JohnSJ Apr 2022 #83

Sometimes bad things are accurate Sympthsical Apr 2022 #84

People expressing views and opinions, that's all JohnSJ Apr 2022 #85

More attempting to monitor views and opinions Sympthsical Apr 2022 #86

Things are facts or they're not. That's the point. betsuni Apr 2022 #89

Totally agree. In my small circle Dems are fired up and pissed off. VOTE! Joinfortmill Apr 2022 #47

Wonderful to hear! yardwork Apr 2022 #54

I have fear but it is about the GOP. bronxiteforever Apr 2022 #60

Well said. yardwork Apr 2022 #61

Spot on.......nt. Sogo Apr 2022 #62

Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2022 #65

Thank you. I miss George (and John). yardwork Apr 2022 #70

K&R betsuni Apr 2022 #72

Agreed. Democratic Americans need to be highly vigilant. Nt Baked Potato Apr 2022 #75

Thank you, best OP I have read in a long time. sheshe2 Apr 2022 #81

I keep seeing memes that things are terrible in America IronLionZion Apr 2022 #90

Ads for Republicans in central NC call Biden "the worst president ever." yardwork Apr 2022 #91