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76. Destroying as many institutions as possible.

Reply to Walleye (Reply #46)

Tue Apr 12, 2022, 11:46 AM

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Question: Does the world, at some point, roll the dice and stop the crushing of Ukraine. [View all] Magoo48 Apr 2022 OP

A wider war, likely on a global scale is preferable to Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #1

I'm asking questions. I'm not proposing anything. This is what I felt. Magoo48 Apr 2022 #2

We have seen who Putin is.. thomski64 Apr 2022 #3

Absolutely. He can keep doing this by threatening... brush Apr 2022 #43

The word you are fumbling for is genocide (nt) NoRethugFriends Apr 2022 #5

I'm not fumbling for anything Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #6

Do we let Putin carve up the world to his liking with barbaric methods? Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #8

Based upon the performance of his army thus far it may Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #13

You don't need a big or powerful army to terrorize a population. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #19

THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 The Russian Army is a mechanized terrorist organization that's it. Any armored uponit7771 Apr 2022 #40

I disagree Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #53

So do I. tavernier Apr 2022 #100

It is madness...this is not 1939 ...we have nukes...the end of the world...no lie. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #32

If Putrid *AND* the people around him are TRULY suicidal then there's NOTHING we can or can NOT uponit7771 Apr 2022 #36

Putin has an army of suicide bombers Walleye Apr 2022 #44

Right, we might as well go all in but not with troops seeing RU destroyed by Ukr citizens would ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #54

That sounds about right to me. Let's finally put these weapons to good use Walleye Apr 2022 #57

👍🏾 uponit7771 Apr 2022 #64

If we set one foot in Ukraine or NATO does I think Putin will use nukes. This is not a scare tactic. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #60

I don't believe the people around him are suicidal even if he is. The people around Hitler were ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #62

You have Western values...we have no way of knowing what might happen. I wouldn't bet my life or Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #65

The Russian army is full of Orcs not the generals and advisors in the Kremlin. You'd have to believe uponit7771 Apr 2022 #68

Why take the chance? Polybius Apr 2022 #83

To save millions of innocent people from the new holocaust? Calculating Apr 2022 #88

Millions? Polybius Apr 2022 #93

Yes Calculating Apr 2022 #97

Extremely unlikely without nukes Polybius Apr 2022 #99

Even without a nuclear exchange Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #56

So, by that token, Finland and Sweden shouldn't be allowed to join NATO either Bettie Apr 2022 #101

What wider war? Against what military? tia uponit7771 Apr 2022 #34

It would be a WWIII...everyone would take sides....not a good idea. And no crazy dictator with Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #63

They are a paper tiger if they're not going to use them knowing it'll mean their own death... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #66

And if you're wrong, then what? Polybius Apr 2022 #84

Which way is right? Letting 1 million people get killed a month because of threats from a uponit7771 Apr 2022 #87

Yes Polybius Apr 2022 #94

True, it is better but the question remains if Putrid **AND** the people around him are really ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #95

It's only suicidal if he launches now Polybius Apr 2022 #96

NATO should intervene now. marie999 Apr 2022 #4

It has been since before the start of the Russian invasion Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #9

Ukraine is not a NATO country. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #33

Either was Afghanistan or Iraq. marie999 Apr 2022 #71

They follow the US' lead Polybius Apr 2022 #85

No. MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #59

There are wars that have been going on for over twenty years. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2022 #7

Well, there is all that Sherman A1 Apr 2022 #11

Because Putin is going after democracies now. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #12

Yeah well, we're losing that battle right here. BlueTsunami2018 Apr 2022 #16

It would probably be better to deal with the head of the viper than the tail. 58Sunliner Apr 2022 #20

Putin has been very successful installing his puppets in the US government. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #23

We are using every means available to stop Putin...But we send troops ...we may end up in a nuclear Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #27

We can do more and not send NATO forces over or on Ukr land uponit7771 Apr 2022 #69

Destroying what was our stellar public education system Walleye Apr 2022 #46

Destroying as many institutions as possible. Irish_Dem Apr 2022 #76

True, that doesn't mean we sit and let it go unchecked elsewhere. Ian Bremmer was arguing your uponit7771 Apr 2022 #47

Something to ponder from Chomsky concerning US support for Democracies - walkingman Apr 2022 #70

Those wars aren't clean naked aggression against a democracy by an autocracy with goal to ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #45

That's it. A war of aggression against a democratic country to acquire their territory,crush democra Walleye Apr 2022 #48

Yemen is basically a civil war The Revolution Apr 2022 #79

The ugly reality is... Wuddles440 Apr 2022 #80

Jake Sullivan should immediately be fired as National Tomconroy Apr 2022 #10

Because why? brooklynite Apr 2022 #15

Why? Stop attacking our side...Trump set this up with his bud Putin. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #25

Nope we won't get our hands dirty there just send them weapons to prolong doc03 Apr 2022 #14

This isn't about getting your hands dirty...this could be the fucking end of the world. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #26

I doubt Pootin wants to give up his life of luxury in his billion dollar doc03 Apr 2022 #31

It has been reported that Putin may be terminally ill...and I personally think he may be mad in Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #37

I agree. We are trying predict Putin's actions by Western values. He is a madman Walleye Apr 2022 #50

I believe he is considering using nukes...as you say he is a madman. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #58

Predict his moves from a KGB standpoint instead haele Apr 2022 #77

We let him take over any country he wants and kill millions of people doc03 Apr 2022 #55

We are not letting him do anything...Russia is in monetary default. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #67

Bull marie999 Apr 2022 #72

We're doing something but hardly everything we can. TomSlick Apr 2022 #81

Again, what happens when Putrids troops are decimated in Ukraine ?! He doesn't look at the button uponit7771 Apr 2022 #49

It's an terrible decision, that history may well show, needed to be made earlier. 58Sunliner Apr 2022 #17

The real goal of the US, EU, and NATO is eliminating the Russian threat long term Amishman Apr 2022 #18

"quickly" is the problem, allowing Russia to decimate a culture and land and resources for a ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #52

No. nt SoCalDavidS Apr 2022 #21

Why not? Duppers Apr 2022 #90

Well.... SoCalDavidS Apr 2022 #92

You are talking about WWIII with nukes...that has to be really the last option. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #22

No no no! 48656c6c6f20 Apr 2022 #24

Seriously, this is the time to consider assassination. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #38

This is not a schoolyard bully. Progressive dog Apr 2022 #28

he isnt going to stop, he must be defeated. mopinko Apr 2022 #29

Do you have a burning desire to see our county nuked? Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #39

I just don't think we can do that...it would be madness. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #61

The thing is, in the case of Russia-Ukraine, if the dice don't land the way we want them to, Aristus Apr 2022 #30

Exactly. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #41

The world will continue what it's doing. SmallFry Apr 2022 #35

Consider what a nuclear holocausts would mean to the world...possibly the end of life. Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #51

I bet Putin hasn't misses a meal during this war. marie999 Apr 2022 #73

No one would take you up on that bet. NT SmallFry Apr 2022 #75

These are good questions. And there are no good answers to them. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #42

If Putin doesn't attack a NATO country by the end of this year, I will write that I was wrong. marie999 Apr 2022 #74

Putin wins simply by having nukes ripcord Apr 2022 #78

I just don't understand how it is that Putin is still alive. We all know forces that exist Samrob Apr 2022 #82

Let's say Biden orders an attack on Russia: Polybius Apr 2022 #86

if Russia responds with 500-1000 nukes... WarGamer Apr 2022 #89

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2022 #91

I think we're getting there peggysue2 Apr 2022 #98