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MineralMan

(151,607 posts) Thu Apr 14, 2022, 12:11 PM Apr 2022

So, I'm seeing OPs here already about replacing older leaders [View all]

in 2024. Notably California Senator Dianne Feinstein and President Biden. I guess we're starting on the 2024 election already. Notable in those OPs is reference to those office-holders' ages. Isn't that interesting?

Ageism raises its ugly head once again, and we start talking about putting our senior politicians out to pasture quite some time before their current terms in office are over.

I would remind those already thinking about throwing elected officials out due to their age in 2024 that we have an election this year, in 2022. Perhaps we would be better served by discussing offices that are up for election in just a few short months before we go off on the oldsters who won't be running until 2024. Perhaps.

In the end, though, only those voting in the states represented by Senators and House members get to choose who represents them. For everyone else, such decisions are none of their business, to be quite frank.

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So, I'm seeing OPs here already about replacing older leaders [View all] MineralMan Apr 2022 OP

Do you really not know how the Senate and House work? PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #1

Yeah, that's probably it mahina Apr 2022 #3

Actually, I know very well how they work. MineralMan Apr 2022 #5

"I will donate to their campaigns." So apparently such decisions are your business after all. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #8

Supporting Dems is what a lot of us do. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #155

You should direct that to the person trying to convince us other races are "none of our business". PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #156

I think I see what he's saying a bit differently. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #158

I've been watching her since she was mayor of SF. To me, she looked lost at the KBJ hearings. TeamProg Apr 2022 #136

Exactly, local voters make their decisions but Big $$$ influences those decisions. n/t TeamProg Apr 2022 #133

Feinstein will be 91 in 2024; she should've stood down in 2018. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #2

So, how has Senator Feinstein voted in matters that have come up MineralMan Apr 2022 #7

That's a relevant question, how? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #9

Sounds like she's doing a good job, then, eh? MineralMan Apr 2022 #16

You're not one of her constitutents (I am; I live in California); why do YOU care? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #21

Oh, snap! Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #50

You just admonished someone for not being a California voter Sympthsical Apr 2022 #56

I was a California voter for over 50 years. MineralMan Apr 2022 #62

You're not now Sympthsical Apr 2022 #67

My advice is that California voters will decide. MineralMan Apr 2022 #69

I'm a California voter Sympthsical Apr 2022 #73

Send her a letter to that effect, then. MineralMan Apr 2022 #84

+1 TeamProg Apr 2022 #138

Speaking as a California voter, she needs to retire now Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #74

Send her a letter as a constituent. MineralMan Apr 2022 #85

Perhaps you should focus on Minnesota, eh? By your own criteria. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #87

Oh, I do. I have campaigned for both of our current Senators MineralMan Apr 2022 #90

Without anyone from California lecturing to you, I'm sure Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #92

Actually no. MineralMan Apr 2022 #96

Tina Smith? True Blue American Apr 2022 #143

Al Franken was bumrushed out of office. MineralMan Apr 2022 #151

Your parents lived in CA too, right? BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #157

The OP says that politics in states other than your own are none of your business. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #160

So you don't really know. Right? Budi Apr 2022 #26

Feinstein is in the Senate, not the House, and "in the same seat" means "California" Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #31

+1 TeamProg Apr 2022 #137

Can't agree that elections of state and federal legislators are not a serious legitimate concern enough Apr 2022 #4

Something I just posted... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #6

Yes. I noticed that article, as well. MineralMan Apr 2022 #11

Both of us seem to be afflicted... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #17

That can be inconvenient at times, for sure. MineralMan Apr 2022 #100

Have you ever had to take the car keys away from an older relative? PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #19

I've had to take the car keys away from younger relatives delisen Apr 2022 #30

Yes accident rates peak for younger drivers and older ones. PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #39

It's also worth noting Mr.Bill Apr 2022 #106

Franklin was born in 1706, so he was 70 in 1776. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #113

Yes, I just watched Ken Burns' documentary about him. Mr.Bill Apr 2022 #119

Ed Case ran against our beloved Senator Akaka and got creamed mahina Apr 2022 #10

Yes. We must gain seats in 2022, not lose them. MineralMan Apr 2022 #12

If you think there's a chance of losing a Senate seat in California... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #80

If we lose a Senate seat in California, we are absolutely fucked. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #86

That seems highly unlikely. MineralMan Apr 2022 #88

Ability to function and positions on issues Jm7603 Apr 2022 #13

So, why do those threads so prominently feature age? MineralMan Apr 2022 #20

Forgot one word: "should" be the only concerns! Jm7603 Apr 2022 #147

When we in South Carolina rid ourselves of OneBlueDotS-Carolina Apr 2022 #14

The Governor of California would appoint a replacement if Feinstein resigned... PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #47

I think most are aware of that... OneBlueDotS-Carolina Apr 2022 #94

Politics transcends boundaries Disaffected Apr 2022 #15

8fucking8. Don't call it ageism. ffs. themaguffin Apr 2022 #18

I call it as I see it, your obscene reference notwithstanding. MineralMan Apr 2022 #23

It's disingenuous on many levels to call it ageism. themaguffin Apr 2022 #29

So you have said. Twice now. MineralMan Apr 2022 #32

I'll say it again and add that she's not competent enough & she's being selfish. themaguffin Apr 2022 #37

there is a difference between ageism and recognizing dementia. NoRethugFriends Apr 2022 #22

Once again, I ask if you watched her at Jackson's confirmation hearing. MineralMan Apr 2022 #25

I am qualified to observe behavior NoRethugFriends Apr 2022 #126

So, I take it that your answer is that you did not watch her in those hearings. MineralMan Apr 2022 #128

As you very well know, NoRethugFriends Apr 2022 #152

She's confused and doesn't recognize colleagues BannonsLiver Apr 2022 #24

California votes will decide that, I'm sure. MineralMan Apr 2022 #27

Maybe they will. Or not? BannonsLiver Apr 2022 #41

Well, as far as I know, she has made no decision about 2024. MineralMan Apr 2022 #45

And Jim inhofe was going the full 6 after getting a fresh term in 2020 BannonsLiver Apr 2022 #66

There is a very lengthy cksmithy Apr 2022 #102

That sounds very sensible of her. MineralMan Apr 2022 #105

Thank you cksmithy Apr 2022 #112

Says who? An "unnamed staffer" & a DB scoop writer from the UK Royalist Correspondent Budi Apr 2022 #34

Says multiple sources over several years BannonsLiver Apr 2022 #42

This issue came up today again because of an article scooped by unnamed sources by a writer ... Budi Apr 2022 #104

Tom Sykes wrote the article . He is a British gossip reporter on the Royal family delisen Apr 2022 #57

Oh FFS because he's the only one who ever wrote about it. BannonsLiver Apr 2022 #63

He's reporting on something that first appeared in Feinstein's hometown newspaper. Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #127

I am reminded of Eric Swalwell's jab at Joe Biden in the presidential debates Bayard Apr 2022 #28

Yes. I agree. MineralMan Apr 2022 #35

Indeed! Duppers Apr 2022 #163

I live in California... orwell Apr 2022 #33

What!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #40

Sorry... orwell Apr 2022 #77

Kinda figured it was something like that, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #81

Thanks... That stopped me from reading any further. nt reACTIONary Apr 2022 #139

"when Harvey Milk shot Mayor Moscone." - don't take this the wrong way, but I think your memory PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #53

See above response... orwell Apr 2022 #79

I would agree that age in itself is not a legitimate basis for deciding whether a candidate deserves KPN Apr 2022 #36

It's a matter of one's fitness to hold office. To be quite frank a politicians mental health is Autumn Apr 2022 #38

Well, here's the thing. I watched her at the Jackson confirmation hearing. MineralMan Apr 2022 #43

Well, here's the thing. A lot of people with dementia have clear days and bad days. Autumn Apr 2022 #83

See my reply to the post below. MineralMan Apr 2022 #120

You could be observing a good day. Which is how dementia actually works. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #91

I am intimately familiar with dementia. MineralMan Apr 2022 #118

You can't compare 2 people you knew intimately to one you only see on television (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #141

Really? MineralMan Apr 2022 #167

the Senate chamber is a highly structured environment Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #169

I see inthewind21 Apr 2022 #162

This message was self-deleted by its author MineralMan Apr 2022 #165

Apparently you think insulting me somehow benefits you. MineralMan Apr 2022 #166

And? Spider Jerusalem Apr 2022 #116

I met a Jesuit priest years ago who was friends with a high ranking Canadian official. Tadpole Raisin Apr 2022 #153

LOL! MORE topics that you deem to be none of our business. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #44

And yet, here we are in a thread I started, discussing it. MineralMan Apr 2022 #49

. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #51

We don't need placeholders. Can't afford placeholders Arazi Apr 2022 #46

Some jobs are too difficult to handle even if you're not in your 90's. lindysalsagal Apr 2022 #48

Stephen Hawkins had problems with housekeeping als as he aged & lost physical abilities. delisen Apr 2022 #78

You're as old as you think. usonian Apr 2022 #52

No, it's about replacing leaders who may not be mentally sharp enough for the job Sympthsical Apr 2022 #54

What is your evidence of that with regard to either Biden or Feinstein? MineralMan Apr 2022 #55

We're discussing Feinstein Sympthsical Apr 2022 #65

I named Joe Biden in my original post. There's another thread in GD MineralMan Apr 2022 #72

+1 Celerity Apr 2022 #82

I watched her when she grilled Jack Dorsey C.E.O. of Twitter, if his company was doing Autumn Apr 2022 #171

Feinstein would be closing in on 98yo at the end of her next term. It is not ageism at all, given Celerity Apr 2022 #58

I say campaign finance being mostly unlimited is more an issue than 'voters' IbogaProject Apr 2022 #59

AGE is just one of many angles of attack on the Democratic Party Hortensis Apr 2022 #60

Yes. Indeed. MineralMan Apr 2022 #64

Horribly easy. Just look at any picture of our top leaders and imagine Hortensis Apr 2022 #68

Frightening, isn't it? MineralMan Apr 2022 #70

We're witnessing the existential battle for our nation. Hortensis Apr 2022 #108

Clowns to the left of me; jokers to the right... MineralMan Apr 2022 #109

:) What keeps popping to my mind is Hortensis Apr 2022 #121

As you say, it's as old as human society. MineralMan Apr 2022 #123

Agreed.....think about the Republican Hypocrisy DENVERPOPS Apr 2022 #115

what Lawrence O'Donnell said about Feinstein is quite worrisome Grasswire2 Apr 2022 #61

Strom 'breathing corpse' Thurmond is hardly a role model we should be striving to emulate IMHO Celerity Apr 2022 #76

I have a comment on this subject quickesst Apr 2022 #71

Did you think Obama had a chance to win the next election back when GWB was President? n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #75

Absolutely quickesst Apr 2022 #89

Sorry, I should have been more specific... PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #97

He was on my short list, for sure. MineralMan Apr 2022 #103

I don't think I had any idea.. quickesst Apr 2022 #117

One might note H2O Man Apr 2022 #150

I certainly did. MineralMan Apr 2022 #93

Please see the clarification to my question... PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #99

I just read an article where Trump mentioned his health. First excuse for not running. True Blue American Apr 2022 #154

His health may also be suffering.. quickesst Apr 2022 #172

I'd like to replace Clarence Thomas IronLionZion Apr 2022 #95

Yes, but that is a Constitutional office, not an elected one. MineralMan Apr 2022 #98

Support Senators that support impeachment. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #101

Although I ForgedCrank Apr 2022 #107

We saw what happened when RBG passed away when the Republican party got to pick a replacement. PoliticAverse Apr 2022 #111

It's not about age, it's about competence. yardwork Apr 2022 #110

Actually, it's about odds. What are the odds that she will pass during the Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #114

I agree that timing is important but age alone isn't the issue. yardwork Apr 2022 #122

As long as we have a Democratic governor Mr.Bill Apr 2022 #124

Yes. Sorry, I was unclear. That was kind of my point. It isn't about ageism, though. Scrivener7 Apr 2022 #130

I think there is a difference between ageism Tree Lady Apr 2022 #125

I sat with Freeman Dyson when he was in his late eighties. NNadir Apr 2022 #129

+1 Celerity Apr 2022 #142

All my family in CA awesomerwb1 Apr 2022 #131

Hold on there partner! Please provide DU links so we can read the arguments for / against ourselves! TeamProg Apr 2022 #132

The question that I have is why hamsterjill Apr 2022 #134

This! Nt XanaDUer2 Apr 2022 #148

The discussion isn't about Senator Dianne Feinstein being old. Gore1FL Apr 2022 #135

+1 TeamProg Apr 2022 #140

I respectfully disagree with the awesome MineralMan SpankMe Apr 2022 #144

i googled Tom Sykes and Dianne Feinstein cksmithy Apr 2022 #145

investing in thte future is a good thing IMO nt msongs Apr 2022 #146

Well, what we say here really makes no never mind, so there's that. BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #149

Sanders is older than Biden and has a GOP Governor, B iden stays if healthy, Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #159

maybe THIS reality means something to consider Grasswire2 Apr 2022 #161

JOHN McCAIN Duppers Apr 2022 #164

Would much rather have octagenarians in the Senate than blue dogs... pecosbob Apr 2022 #168

I admit I commented on the Feinstein OP mcar Apr 2022 #170