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In reply to the discussion: A note about the 'Azov Regiment' [View all]SunSeeker
(58,374 posts)4. That's a bit overstated, and it's not like Ukraine can be picky about who defends them in Mariupol.
Regardless, Biletsky no longer leads the Regiment; he is now a politician, and has been for years. The Azov Regiment only numbers around 900, and is now under the control of the Ukrainian armed forces. The soldiers of the Azov Regiment deny they are neo-Nazis, although they are definitely right wing. They deny their symbol is the Wolfsangel, they say it is an "I" superimposed over an "N," which stands for "National Idea," similar to the "America First" slogan of right wingers in the US.
The Azov Regiment has been part of the the Ukrainian National Guard since 2014:
A few months after recapturing the strategic port city of Mariupol from the Russian-backed separatists, the unit was officially integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine on November 12, 2014, and exacted high praise from then-President Petro Poroshenko.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment
And it's not like Putin has any room to talk. He employs the Wagner Group mercenaries, who number in the thousands and are actual Nazis (they named themselves after Richard Wagner, Hitler's favorite composer). Putin used the Wagner Group to do his dirty work in Syria and it is believed he deployed them to Ukraine to assassinate Zelensky.https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-what-is-the-wagner-group-of-secret-russian-mercenaries-12562034
If Putin wants to "de-natzify" Ukraine, he should withdraw his Wagner Group mercenaries from Ukraine.
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That's a bit overstated, and it's not like Ukraine can be picky about who defends them in Mariupol.
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#4
Long, long before the Russian invasion, I was a large documentarian of neo nazi
Celerity
Apr 2022
#23
In a letter signed by 40 US House Democrats and addressed to the Secretary of State Mike
Celerity
Apr 2022
#38
This was from 2019. The Azov REGIMENT in Mariupol does not "openly welcome neo-Nazis"
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#39
it's the same group, it didn't magically change in the last 2 or so years, that is preposterous
Celerity
Apr 2022
#45
No, it is not the same group. The people of Mariupol are in the Azov Regiment.
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#47
repeating the same rebutted statements and ad hominem attacks via false framing is a sure sign you
Celerity
Apr 2022
#48
You haven't rebutted a damn thing. Those civilians are now in the Regiment, as shown in that pic.
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#49
Do you think Post 20's picture with the NATO & NAZI flags is not Putin propaganda?
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#58
You are applying ex post facto framing. Also, you cannot even keep your Ukrainian cities straight.
Celerity
Apr 2022
#64
Non sequitur, plus you are apparently fine with using the wrong city to push a false claim, plus
Celerity
Apr 2022
#67
I have made no "false claims." Here's pictures from Mariupol. All you had to do was ask.
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#70
My understanding they were founded as such, but are more generic RW militia now
Amishman
Apr 2022
#22
No, they're not. They deny they are neo-Nazis. That is why Twitter allows praising them.
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#33
You're wrong. "The flag" of the Azov Regiment of the Ukraine National Guard is the Ukrainian flag.
SunSeeker
May 2022
#74
The Ukrainian Marines and volunteer fighters made a mistake when joining with them recently.
Xolodno
Apr 2022
#11
No, the Azov Regiment in Mariupol is not "actual Nazis." That is Russian propaganda.
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#31
No it doesn't. The neo-Nazis split off to become an (unsuccessful) political group.
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#40
Bullshit. As the article points out, the Regiment now includes the citizens of Mariupol.
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#46
It's very disgusting that people claim the Azov Regiment in Mariupol are Nazis.
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#59
Yes, unfortunately it summoned the posting of some pretty vile Putin propaganda pics/posters. nt
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#32
Bull. Again, that is referring to the Azov Batallion. Not the Azov Regiment in Mariupol NOW.
SunSeeker
Apr 2022
#54