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wnylib

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66. I admit that when I heard about OBL,
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 09:01 PM
Apr 2022

my immediate reaction was to raise my fist and cheer. I have never felt bad about that. As the leader behind 911, I felt, and still do, that he earned his end.

When I feel concerned about cheering the deaths of Russians, it is only because I know that some of them did not want this war and are young conscripts. The generals are obviously professional soldiers and they know that death is the risk of their chosen profession. But young conscripts got caught up in things beyond their control.

Then I read about and see the evidence of the massacres and tortures and think that the soldiers who carried them out would have been better off to have turned on their officers and shot them instead. And since they didn't, I feel less concern for them when they are killed.

In war, there is no social order. Many people do not have an internal compass when there is no external social order. They do things they would not have done otherwise. They become feral human beings.

That is the hideousness of war.

In the end, my sympathies and concerns are with the Ukrainian people and their sufferings and losses, the injustice of the attacks on civilians and bombing of civilian targets. And I know very well that, in the same situation as the Ukrainian people, I would retaliate with ruthless anger.

I am sad over the senseless loss of life that never should have been started. But since it has, I support giving the military and humanitarian aid that Ukraine needs. I pray for the Ukrainian people. But since I cannot bring myself to pray for someone's death, I pray for the Russians to be incapacitated in their ability to attack. The end result is probably the same since, if they are incapacitated, the Ukrainian fighters will move in on them. But that is the nature of war and the Russians brought on themselves whatever happens to them.

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Two more dead Russian generals! [View all] Tomconroy Apr 2022 OP
Most excellent dalton99a Apr 2022 #1
Keep banging your gums on unencrypted devices Aviation Pro Apr 2022 #2
If they didn't have unencrypted devices they wouldn't have any devices at all. Ocelot II Apr 2022 #4
Or runners Aviation Pro Apr 2022 #5
Putin seems to have an inexhaustible supply of generals Warpy Apr 2022 #40
Sounds like their whole army consists of generals and conscripts Walleye Apr 2022 #3
And the generals outnumber the conscripts. sop Apr 2022 #18
My boyfriend wa an army paratrooper in the 50s He said it was sergeants that wonWorld War II for us Walleye Apr 2022 #19
Airborne so true NCO's run the show. Duncanpup Apr 2022 #41
Fury was another one.. Sgt Pitt was great.. nt mitch96 Apr 2022 #54
For how much longer? CaptainTruth Apr 2022 #49
General idiots and conscripts Fullduplexxx Apr 2022 #48
I'm a little weepy eyed....I'm a sucker for happy endings. Comfortably_Numb Apr 2022 #6
These generals are dying so Ukrainians can live. I support and appreciate their sacrifice! liberalla Apr 2022 #42
That is my mix of feelings, too. wnylib Apr 2022 #44
They're every bit as human as Osama bin Laden was. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #65
I admit that when I heard about OBL, wnylib Apr 2022 #66
Only two?? Darn!! niyad Apr 2022 #7
Another is claimed to have been seriously wounded. Igel Apr 2022 #58
Thank you for that encouraging note. niyad Apr 2022 #60
It's always been a dream of mine to become... dchill Apr 2022 #8
There are benefits dalton99a Apr 2022 #9
Killed by a poisoned magnet? Comfortably_Numb Apr 2022 #12
The Guys Who Are Never At The Front... GB_RN Apr 2022 #17
Who cares about medals? Disaffected Apr 2022 #23
Oh, yeah dalton99a Apr 2022 #27
Oh, no. Not the hats!! paleotn Apr 2022 #31
Would act like a sail on a windy day?? Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #43
It's held down by a specially shaped flask of vodka. n/t Igel Apr 2022 #59
Ha! Good one! Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #64
What about those pointed old German helmets? wnylib Apr 2022 #50
I was in the Canadian Navy in the 90's and sailed into Vladivostok OnlinePoker Apr 2022 #39
That's Georgy Zhukov. He was no poser. sarge43 Apr 2022 #34
Thank you for that background on Georgy. His name is familiar but I didn't liberalla Apr 2022 #45
You're welcome. sarge43 Apr 2022 #52
Okay! I just put it on hold at the library. I was expecting a serious, weighty, dark historical film liberalla Apr 2022 #61
In some scenes, very dark, especially Beria's. sarge43 Apr 2022 #62
In peacetime, a lot of the medals Russia awards are basically participation trophies. Aristus Apr 2022 #38
:) It was once obviously theirs also. Far more have died Hortensis Apr 2022 #16
While Russia will win some battles, they will never multigraincracker Apr 2022 #10
I hope Russia has a regime change KS Toronado Apr 2022 #20
Twofer. Sweet! Wingus Dingus Apr 2022 #11
Almost a "hat trick!" colorado_ufo Apr 2022 #13
How many generals is this? LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #14
It's 8 or 10 now. I've lost track. Tomconroy Apr 2022 #36
A lot - generally speaking Generic Brad Apr 2022 #37
Wiki says 7 so far. Lasher Apr 2022 #46
Slava Ukraine BootinUp Apr 2022 #15
This sounds rare for so many generals to be killed. mysteryowl Apr 2022 #21
Lots of informants in Kherson BeyondGeography Apr 2022 #22
Russian communications are a disaster. I just don't get it. paleotn Apr 2022 #29
friend of mine can monitor russian comms in the clear , in the clear on 200 mc using a simple walki AllaN01Bear Apr 2022 #33
They're fast running out of generals. paleotn Apr 2022 #24
And this is the appropriate forum Disaffected Apr 2022 #25
I wonder if Ukraine has powerful friends with advanced tracking abilities. Iggo Apr 2022 #26
Might be those same guys who Otto_Harper Apr 2022 #55
Add in the generals and admirals that Putin is arresting and firing relayerbob Apr 2022 #28
if true, good llashram Apr 2022 #30
who says the news is always bad? Takket Apr 2022 #32
They're dropping off like flies. lpbk2713 Apr 2022 #35
US "birds" will eat 'em cooked... Justice matters. Apr 2022 #47
Kill them Duncanpup Apr 2022 #51
Russian generals seem to have the life expectancy of... AdamGG Apr 2022 #53
Or of Al Qaeda #2 commanders. Ocelot II Apr 2022 #56
We now go live to the ceremony honoring newly promoted Russian generals. LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #57
If it was 7 generals before, Jilly_in_VA Apr 2022 #63
Milestone LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #67
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