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haele

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22. Kaepernick kneeling was not religious, but for "respect".

Mon Apr 25, 2022, 09:25 AM

Apr 2022

His issue was the enforced stand with hand over heart to salute the flag/national anthem hyper-patriotism, bread and circuses social white-washing that professional sports was sliding into.
Kneeling was an option that he has told by some military members would be a respectful alternative to just sitting there while everyone else stood in lockstep pretending everything is all just peachy in their lives.
And it would have been except for right wing reactionaries who want their football players to be fantasy football video game characters instead of real people who have real lives outside of sports and don't just want to be dumb jocks.
They went to college. And the good colleges will try to teach these young men and women that while they may be good athletes, most of them won't get a lucrative professional sports contract to support them out of college; a lot of good college athletes actually get degrees outside of Sports because they know this. Sports pays for their Batchelor's or even Master's degrees.

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The Supreme Court ponders the right to pray on the 50-yard line [View all] sl8 Apr 2022 OP

There are thousands of churches and they are tax-free. They still have to force prayers on children Walleye Apr 2022 #1

You can prayer in school just keep it to yourself Marthe48 Apr 2022 #24

They think God orders them to shove it down our throats Walleye Apr 2022 #25

We didn't have teacher led praying Marthe48 Apr 2022 #31

They'll change their mind when other religions start doing the same uponit7771 Apr 2022 #2

First, they should ponder Matthew 6: 16-18. GoCubsGo Apr 2022 #3

It's perfectly legal for a coach to pray on the 50-yard line. Saboburns Apr 2022 #4

He is an adult in a position of authority. He decides who makes Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #17

And none of that prohibits him from Constitutionally protected religious activity. Saboburns Apr 2022 #29

None of that changes what I said. Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #30

He stopped praying with the students forthemiddle Apr 2022 #32

One player did complain. Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #34

Thanks, I missed that forthemiddle Apr 2022 #37

It's also about a public school and using that platform to support religion. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2022 #40

Who will protect and secure FraDon Apr 2022 #5

The best explanation of it all (and it's NOT Bill Maher): DFW Apr 2022 #18

Ahh, you beat me to it. From the Washington Post: mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2022 #6

'living their faith' doesn't have to be made into a spectacle rurallib Apr 2022 #9

Jesus would be horrified. GoCubsGo Apr 2022 #10

Thank you for the additional info. n/t sl8 Apr 2022 #26

I'll be honest. I learned the Lords Prayer from high school football underpants Apr 2022 #7

The fact that you felt coerced (and who wouldn't have felt that way?) is the Nay Apr 2022 #14

They've baked their prayers into cakes, into healthcare plans, now the 50 yard line?? bucolic_frolic Apr 2022 #8

Looks like it will come down to Justice Barret FBaggins Apr 2022 #11

Is that really the right location? How about the 5 yard line? Or the end zone? milestogo Apr 2022 #12

It must not be important to Judge Ginni or it would be... Hugin Apr 2022 #13

My God, do they kneel ? rickford66 Apr 2022 #15

Of course. They kneel and hold hands. It's considered team building. haele Apr 2022 #20

So why the fuss about Kaepernick kneeling ? rickford66 Apr 2022 #21

Kaepernick kneeling was not religious, but for "respect". haele Apr 2022 #22

these cases are not about the exercise of religion MissMillie Apr 2022 #16

Jeepers Karma13612 Apr 2022 #19

What the Court can't possibly determine DFW Apr 2022 #23

Separation of church and state - it's a fucking no-brainer Novara Apr 2022 #27

I've heard this saying; Religon is like a penis. It's okay to have one and it's okay to be Hotler Apr 2022 #28

A waste of tax payers money. Folks have been doing that for years now praying at the 50 rockfordfile Apr 2022 #33

A Catholic School can do it 24/7. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #35

+1 moondust Apr 2022 #38

Reread this story, replacing "praying" with "masturbating". Midnight Writer Apr 2022 #36

Who is it really who wants to indoctrinate children? Hmmmmmm, Who could it be? MagickMuffin Apr 2022 #39