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Celerity

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71. Oh, yes, most members of the Norse Conservative Party would be to the left of Manchin
Wed Apr 27, 2022, 08:29 PM
Apr 2022

Henry Cuellar and other Dems.

For sure Cuellar would be seen as hard right in the Nordics, and most Rethugs would be seen as outright Nazi fascists and ultra state wreckers, and many would be prosecuted for hate crimes and speech.

The Norse Conservative Party is very much like our (Swedish) Moderates, who changed the party name from the Conservatives to the Moderates several decades back, and in 2006, to De Nya Moderaterna (The New Moderates) to reflect further leftward moves (the Norse Conservative Party has made many if the same ideological changes over the years)

A lot of DUers would be Moderates if they lived Sweden, and Conservatives if they lived in Norway. Of that I have little doubt, in fact, almost none.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(Norway)

The Conservative Party (Bokmål: Høyre, Nynorsk: Høgre, lit.?'Right', H; Northern Sami: Olgešbellodat) is a liberal-conservative political party in Norway. It is the major party of the Norwegian centre-right, and was the leading party in government as part of the Solberg cabinet from 2013 to 2021. The current party leader is former Prime Minister Erna Solberg. The party is a member of the International Democrat Union and an associate member of the European People's Party.

Ideology
Liberal conservatism
Pro-Europeanism
Political position
Centre-right
European affiliation
European People's Party (associate)
International affiliation
International Democrat Union
Nordic affiliation
Conservative Group
Colours
Blue
Slogan
"Vi tror på Norge"
(We believe in Norway)

The party is traditionally a pragmatic and moderately conservative party strongly associated with the traditional elites within the civil service and Norwegian business life. During the 20th century the party has advocated economic liberalism, tax cuts, individual rights, support of monarchism, the Church of Norway and the Armed Forces, anti-communism, pro-Europeanism and support of the Nordic model; over time the party's values have become more socially liberal in areas such as gender equality, LGBT rights and immigration and integration issues, and the party is relatively secular despite its nominal support for the Church of Norway; the party defines itself as a party pursuing a "conservative progressive policy based on Christian cultural values, constitutional government and democracy". In line with its Western alignment the party strongly supports NATO, which Norway co-founded, and has consistently been the most outspokenly pro-European Union party in Norway, supporting Norwegian membership during both the 1972 and 1994 referendums.

The Conservative Party traditionally caters to the educated elite; it has the most highly educated voters of all parties, and is the most popular party among elite groups. In the postwar era, the party formed a grand consensus with the Labour Party regarding foreign and security policy—frequently expressed by the maxim "the foreign policy is settled" (utenrikspolitikken ligger fast)—that led Norway to co-found NATO and enter into a close alliance with the United States, and the parties' economic policies have gradually become more similar.

Both parties are pragmatic, relatively technocratic, anti-populist and close to the political centre. The party supports the Nordic model, but also a certain amount of semi-privatisation through state-funded private services.

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Coincidence? I think not. [View all] Celerity Apr 2022 OP
Absolutely Delphinus Apr 2022 #1
And don't forget about Jacinda Ardern in New Zealand or past prez Golda Meir of Israel.nt mitch96 Apr 2022 #45
K&R! secondwind Apr 2022 #2
More than Norway and Latvia--elect women in every country. panader0 Apr 2022 #3
oh, mentioned those two as it would complete the set (all 8 Nordic/Baltic nations) Celerity Apr 2022 #6
Right on 3auld6phart Apr 2022 #80
. Achilleaze Apr 2022 #4
Bravo! Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #5
Brava! niyad Apr 2022 #9
Is Brava for females and Bravo for males? I'm so out of touch... Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #66
Yes. niyad Apr 2022 #69
BRAVA! Raster Apr 2022 #20
love your line Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #65
Thanks! Also have it on a T-shirt and wear it everywhere! Raster Apr 2022 #84
It's perfect! Evolve Dammit Apr 2022 #87
And it goes over *quite well* in Mesa, Arizona!!! Raster Apr 2022 #88
When women rule the world... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #7
... then we do need way better women for the job! TomWilm Apr 2022 #26
Yeah, unfortunately we women are just as... momta Apr 2022 #35
Yeah canetoad Apr 2022 #61
I Do Not RobinA Apr 2022 #34
You seriously doubt it eh? North Shore Chicago Apr 2022 #83
This underscores the sad reality Tucker's "The End of Men" is really all about the fear of women. sop Apr 2022 #8
It'll be 30 years ago next year when this was first published but... BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #40
I remember that movie, starring Michael Douglas. sop Apr 2022 #47
... BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #48
Exactly. niyad Apr 2022 #10
K and r. nt BlackSkimmer Apr 2022 #11
And damn, Hillary should have been right there with them. 🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Apr 2022 #12
Maybe it'll eventually be Kamala. llmart Apr 2022 #15
I would LOVE that. momta Apr 2022 #36
That would be lovely, yes. soldierant Apr 2022 #64
K&R. nt c-rational Apr 2022 #13
K&R llmart Apr 2022 #14
I Don't Understand RobinA Apr 2022 #37
It's why I used the adjectives to describe the women we need in top level government. llmart Apr 2022 #41
I guess the question is CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #43
Qualifications being equal, soldierant Apr 2022 #63
I don't know about all of that. CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #67
If you do not know about all of that, then you have not been paying attention. niyad Apr 2022 #68
Are you looking for an argument or something? CrackityJones75 Apr 2022 #74
I'm with niyad. Sparkly Apr 2022 #75
Marine LePen comes to mind. How disastrous that would have been. Bev54 Apr 2022 #46
and Margaret Thatcher too DBoon Apr 2022 #56
And look who's next in line in NK..... oldsoftie Apr 2022 #49
Estonia too! OMGWTF Apr 2022 #16
I listed Kaja Kallas Celerity Apr 2022 #17
My husband has said DownriverDem Apr 2022 #18
Hillary Clinton was probably the most qualified POTUS candidate in our lifetimes. Raster Apr 2022 #21
Could not agree more Raster............ DENVERPOPS Apr 2022 #31
Let's make Nikki Fried the next governor of Florida! CaptainTruth Apr 2022 #19
If only they ran clean elections peppertree Apr 2022 #23
Explain please. róisín_dubh Apr 2022 #90
Hmmm...what are your thoughts on her suing Biden Administration AllyCat Apr 2022 #44
Absolutely wonderful! Did not realize. Thanks for posting. Fla Dem Apr 2022 #22
So glad I clicked on this thread! CrispyQ Apr 2022 #24
Would love to see Stacy Abrams take Georgia governorship Bayard Apr 2022 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Apr 2022 #27
And the US next IronLionZion Apr 2022 #28
And aren't those, like, 5 of the 10 happiest countries in the world? (can't remember the source) TheRickles Apr 2022 #29
List Celerity Apr 2022 #52
The USA barbtries Apr 2022 #30
truly! LymphocyteLover Apr 2022 #33
Exactly. niyad Apr 2022 #70
I thought Norway did have a female PM? Or you mean she's not a social Dem? LymphocyteLover Apr 2022 #32
The leader of the opposition party in Norway is a woman. The PM is a man. oldsoftie Apr 2022 #50
until 6 months ago they had a female PM, Erna Solberg, a Conservative Celerity Apr 2022 #53
thanks.... I assume "conservative" is relative there? LymphocyteLover Apr 2022 #62
Oh, yes, most members of the Norse Conservative Party would be to the left of Manchin Celerity Apr 2022 #71
Interesting to read about this. JudyM Apr 2022 #86
thanks! LymphocyteLover Apr 2022 #93
These women Traildogbob Apr 2022 #38
All listed are LW/social democrats except for Kaja Kallas (she is head of a centre right/centre left Celerity Apr 2022 #54
Thanks for the info Traildogbob Apr 2022 #55
Awesome. We need more of that around the globe if we're going to save this place. KPN Apr 2022 #39
K&R! gademocrat7 Apr 2022 #42
after listening to bill's eulogy for madeleine albright, mopinko Apr 2022 #51
There definitely is that. calimary Apr 2022 #58
I'd note their ages as well Sympthsical Apr 2022 #57
get the feeling a lot of them started w the problem and mopinko Apr 2022 #60
Thank you. I was going to mention that. niyad Apr 2022 #72
Ageism. Sparkly Apr 2022 #76
No, representation Sympthsical Apr 2022 #77
That's not what you said, though. Sparkly Apr 2022 #79
Also Merkel is no longer in office but she would be another good JI7 Apr 2022 #85
Joe Biden was elected at 77...so let us elect Hilary at 77 in 2024..Why Not? Stuart G Apr 2022 #59
I'd go for that Polybius Apr 2022 #81
During the early part of the pandemic, Forbes (that notorious bastion of niyad Apr 2022 #73
Also the progressive President of Slovakia Zuzana Čaputova Bavorskoami Apr 2022 #78
Sanna Marin is gorgeous! Polybius Apr 2022 #82
They all are! tavernier Apr 2022 #89
Latvia has had both a female prez and pm. tavernier Apr 2022 #91
Off topic newdayneeded Apr 2022 #92
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