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11. No thanks! Nt

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] fightforfreedom Jun 2022 OP

I think women should too jimfields33 Jun 2022 #1

Including women is a good idea. It is clear our culture has turned rotten. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #2

There have been mass murder perpetrated by veterans...so that is just bullshit. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #48

BRAVO A THOUSAND TIMES !!!!!!!!!!!! HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #61

Women already have not enough freedom, plus too much rape in military lostnfound Jun 2022 #25

Absolutely not...no one gets signed up for indentured servitude against ther will. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #49

How is requiring people to enter the military not a draft? MichMan Jun 2022 #3

it's not a draft if everyone has to do it anarch Jun 2022 #4

Good post. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #8

Sending pacifists to "service in some kind of non-military capacity" ignores the OPs claim... brooklynite Jun 2022 #16

non-combat personnel would also be required to qualify with a rifle, etc. anarch Jun 2022 #23

In which case, where is the character building coming from? brooklynite Jun 2022 #27

presumably all your friends would make you feel like an ass for it anarch Jun 2022 #30

And why would I care what my "friends" think? brooklynite Jun 2022 #32

indeed, why should any of us care what our neighbors think? anarch Jun 2022 #33

I'm talking about YOUR neighbors... brooklynite Jun 2022 #52

It sounds more like indoctrination...and what if the kid doesn't want to do it...I suppose Jail and Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #39

what do you think it is we have now? anarch Jun 2022 #62

"...the whole point would be to instill values of community and cooperation in everyone" HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #64

yes! but not as the only thing anyone should learn anarch Jun 2022 #87

Absolutely not. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #41

Most perps wouldn't pass military entrance exam Captain Zero Jun 2022 #90

Honestly this is really terrible idea and honestly unAmerican. By what right can a kid be forced to Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #43

I sure hope if you have kids that you home-schooled them in that case anarch Jun 2022 #63

When you have kids, you parent them...not indoctrinate them. And you are talking about taking Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #75

I don't know, it seems like a lot of parents do indoctrinate their kids anarch Jun 2022 #89

I do not agree at all. We live Democracy / Republic. Forcing folks to do xyz is something a Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #98

BRAVO BRAVO !!! HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #65

Thank you! Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #76

No it's still a draft. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #46

It would be a type of one year military school. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #7

How about we call it a really really bad idea. We are a Republic and not being forced into Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #38

Sorry...a year in a kids life...NO. It won't happen anyway. I suppose it is silly to argue about it. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #44

NOBODY should be forced to go to "military school." HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #66

Or a period of national service based on the CCC Model? Ferryboat Jun 2022 #68

No, it is still slavery. And we don't the right to inflict that on young people by force. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #79

How is mandatory service in some form slavery? Ferryboat Jun 2022 #86

We are a Republic and I don't care what other countries do...when the word mandatory is used than Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #100

There are a lot of violent people that have served in the military JI7 Jun 2022 #5

We have over 330 million people in this country. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #26

While it may be useful in a myriad of ways... MissMillie Jun 2022 #6

I didn't say it would be perfect. Nothing is. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #10

Please list what other things are mandatory!! USALiberal Jun 2022 #12

You got to be kidding. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #15

Well if it's so easy list me five. USALiberal Jun 2022 #28

Example? USALiberal Jun 2022 #103

maybe carrots and sticks are what's needed MissMillie Jun 2022 #20

speaking as a 'military brat',,,,, there are other things,,,, KarenS Jun 2022 #9

I agree, I was just giving one example. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #13

"throwing them to the wolves" yes,,,, KarenS Jun 2022 #18

No...what make you think that anyone has a right to steal years from young people and order Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #36

No thanks! Nt USALiberal Jun 2022 #11

For a long time I have thought that every young adult should be required Arkansas Granny Jun 2022 #14

NO and no. This is supposed to be a free country and what you describe is endured servitude. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #35

That's been my thought, that everyone does some kind of service as a citizen catrose Jun 2022 #42

For those who are already MOSTLY well adjusted at 18, or who are mentally and physically Karma13612 Jun 2022 #17

Of the few that might benefit 48656c6c6f20 Jun 2022 #19

THANK YOU. HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #67

If we want to provide structure to people's lives, there are a lot better ways than requiring them WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #21

Make your bed.... Deuce Jun 2022 #22

It was a really stupid idea in my opinion, silly as hell USALiberal Jun 2022 #31

You are entitled to your opinion...but it could be helpful for some! Deuce Jun 2022 #40

The military doesn't make you a 'man'. AndyS Jun 2022 #24

"The military doesn't make you a 'man'." HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #69

I say twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #29

Much more succinct than my reply about studying music. HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #70

Why thanks. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #72

Absolutely not. You are either a free country or not. No coerced military training. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #34

This sounds like it's right out of the fifties when I was growing up...no thanks. spanone Jun 2022 #37

Fuck the draft. NT. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #45

FTD ✌🏻 Floyd R. Turbo Jun 2022 #54

I haven't seen anyone here complaining about Ukraine's draft. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #56

TOTALLY,TOTALLY comparing apples and giraffes. HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #71

Wow, did I missed the Russian invasion of the US? kcr Jun 2022 #96

No way. milestogo Jun 2022 #47

If you're forced to be somewhere and it's illegal for you to leave... Girard442 Jun 2022 #50

Absolutely not. llmart Jun 2022 #51

Why not medical training? Xoan Jun 2022 #53

There are many beneficial things that could be implemented. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #55

Pass on that. It may have worked for you, maybe you needed it but I see a lot of young Autumn Jun 2022 #57

I absolutely agree with you! Nice to be on the same side...hehe. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #60

Sorry, but the military folks themselves don't want this. DinahMoeHum Jun 2022 #58

I do not agree. I believe that is a horrible idea. HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #59

I can go for that. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #74

While I'm not down with military service for everyone Calista241 Jun 2022 #73

I am not. Is this a democracy or not? By what right do we have to force our young people to Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #78

Agree. Forced work sounds very similar to a prison chain-gang. NYC Liberal Jun 2022 #83

In 1933, FDR established the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) Calista241 Jun 2022 #84

It won't instill a sense of pride if it's forced kcr Jun 2022 #95

Like I said I was just giving one example, an idea. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #99

No thanks VGNonly Jun 2022 #77

Bad idea. A pant load. nt PufPuf23 Jun 2022 #80

Oh hell no. There are better ways. yellowcanine Jun 2022 #81

I am glad that it worked out for the OP, but military service is not for everyone. Chainfire Jun 2022 #82

i'll start by saying i agree with you rampartc Jun 2022 #85

How about we *STOP* the militarization of our culture? Maybe a year of pacifist training ck4829 Jun 2022 #88

Agreed Maeve Jun 2022 #92

I understand where you are going with this, I don't think mandating military service is the answer. Gore1FL Jun 2022 #91

All good points. former9thward Jun 2022 #93

I agree, I was not clear on what I meant about a type of military training. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #105

This is never going to happen in a million years kcr Jun 2022 #94

Majority of 18 year olds can't qualify for military service madville Jun 2022 #97

I should have been more clear in my post. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #101

Yeah, no. BarackTheVote Jun 2022 #102

WOW! Talk about twisting my post. You make me sound like a Nazi. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #106

18-year-old men is scientifically an oxymoron. Adult brain development Hortensis Jun 2022 #104