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fightforfreedom

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13. I agree, I was just giving one example.

Wed Jun 1, 2022, 07:50 AM

Jun 2022

Some type of one year service that teaches young people what they will need to know to handle the adult world. right now we are just throwing millions of young people to the wolves. They haven't been taught anything. They grow up into adults who don't know a dam thing.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] fightforfreedom Jun 2022 OP

I think women should too jimfields33 Jun 2022 #1

Including women is a good idea. It is clear our culture has turned rotten. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #2

There have been mass murder perpetrated by veterans...so that is just bullshit. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #48

BRAVO A THOUSAND TIMES !!!!!!!!!!!! HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #61

Women already have not enough freedom, plus too much rape in military lostnfound Jun 2022 #25

Absolutely not...no one gets signed up for indentured servitude against ther will. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #49

How is requiring people to enter the military not a draft? MichMan Jun 2022 #3

it's not a draft if everyone has to do it anarch Jun 2022 #4

Good post. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #8

Sending pacifists to "service in some kind of non-military capacity" ignores the OPs claim... brooklynite Jun 2022 #16

non-combat personnel would also be required to qualify with a rifle, etc. anarch Jun 2022 #23

In which case, where is the character building coming from? brooklynite Jun 2022 #27

presumably all your friends would make you feel like an ass for it anarch Jun 2022 #30

And why would I care what my "friends" think? brooklynite Jun 2022 #32

indeed, why should any of us care what our neighbors think? anarch Jun 2022 #33

I'm talking about YOUR neighbors... brooklynite Jun 2022 #52

It sounds more like indoctrination...and what if the kid doesn't want to do it...I suppose Jail and Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #39

what do you think it is we have now? anarch Jun 2022 #62

"...the whole point would be to instill values of community and cooperation in everyone" HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #64

yes! but not as the only thing anyone should learn anarch Jun 2022 #87

Absolutely not. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #41

Most perps wouldn't pass military entrance exam Captain Zero Jun 2022 #90

Honestly this is really terrible idea and honestly unAmerican. By what right can a kid be forced to Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #43

I sure hope if you have kids that you home-schooled them in that case anarch Jun 2022 #63

When you have kids, you parent them...not indoctrinate them. And you are talking about taking Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #75

I don't know, it seems like a lot of parents do indoctrinate their kids anarch Jun 2022 #89

I do not agree at all. We live Democracy / Republic. Forcing folks to do xyz is something a Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #98

BRAVO BRAVO !!! HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #65

Thank you! Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #76

No it's still a draft. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #46

It would be a type of one year military school. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #7

How about we call it a really really bad idea. We are a Republic and not being forced into Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #38

Sorry...a year in a kids life...NO. It won't happen anyway. I suppose it is silly to argue about it. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #44

NOBODY should be forced to go to "military school." HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #66

Or a period of national service based on the CCC Model? Ferryboat Jun 2022 #68

No, it is still slavery. And we don't the right to inflict that on young people by force. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #79

How is mandatory service in some form slavery? Ferryboat Jun 2022 #86

We are a Republic and I don't care what other countries do...when the word mandatory is used than Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #100

There are a lot of violent people that have served in the military JI7 Jun 2022 #5

We have over 330 million people in this country. jimfields33 Jun 2022 #26

While it may be useful in a myriad of ways... MissMillie Jun 2022 #6

I didn't say it would be perfect. Nothing is. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #10

Please list what other things are mandatory!! USALiberal Jun 2022 #12

You got to be kidding. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #15

Well if it's so easy list me five. USALiberal Jun 2022 #28

Example? USALiberal Jun 2022 #103

maybe carrots and sticks are what's needed MissMillie Jun 2022 #20

speaking as a 'military brat',,,,, there are other things,,,, KarenS Jun 2022 #9

I agree, I was just giving one example. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #13

"throwing them to the wolves" yes,,,, KarenS Jun 2022 #18

No...what make you think that anyone has a right to steal years from young people and order Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #36

No thanks! Nt USALiberal Jun 2022 #11

For a long time I have thought that every young adult should be required Arkansas Granny Jun 2022 #14

NO and no. This is supposed to be a free country and what you describe is endured servitude. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #35

That's been my thought, that everyone does some kind of service as a citizen catrose Jun 2022 #42

For those who are already MOSTLY well adjusted at 18, or who are mentally and physically Karma13612 Jun 2022 #17

Of the few that might benefit 48656c6c6f20 Jun 2022 #19

THANK YOU. HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #67

If we want to provide structure to people's lives, there are a lot better ways than requiring them WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #21

Make your bed.... Deuce Jun 2022 #22

It was a really stupid idea in my opinion, silly as hell USALiberal Jun 2022 #31

You are entitled to your opinion...but it could be helpful for some! Deuce Jun 2022 #40

The military doesn't make you a 'man'. AndyS Jun 2022 #24

"The military doesn't make you a 'man'." HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #69

I say twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #29

Much more succinct than my reply about studying music. HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #70

Why thanks. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #72

Absolutely not. You are either a free country or not. No coerced military training. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #34

This sounds like it's right out of the fifties when I was growing up...no thanks. spanone Jun 2022 #37

Fuck the draft. NT. Voltaire2 Jun 2022 #45

FTD ✌🏻 Floyd R. Turbo Jun 2022 #54

I haven't seen anyone here complaining about Ukraine's draft. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #56

TOTALLY,TOTALLY comparing apples and giraffes. HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #71

Wow, did I missed the Russian invasion of the US? kcr Jun 2022 #96

No way. milestogo Jun 2022 #47

If you're forced to be somewhere and it's illegal for you to leave... Girard442 Jun 2022 #50

Absolutely not. llmart Jun 2022 #51

Why not medical training? Xoan Jun 2022 #53

There are many beneficial things that could be implemented. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #55

Pass on that. It may have worked for you, maybe you needed it but I see a lot of young Autumn Jun 2022 #57

I absolutely agree with you! Nice to be on the same side...hehe. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #60

Sorry, but the military folks themselves don't want this. DinahMoeHum Jun 2022 #58

I do not agree. I believe that is a horrible idea. HUAJIAO Jun 2022 #59

I can go for that. twodogsbarking Jun 2022 #74

While I'm not down with military service for everyone Calista241 Jun 2022 #73

I am not. Is this a democracy or not? By what right do we have to force our young people to Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #78

Agree. Forced work sounds very similar to a prison chain-gang. NYC Liberal Jun 2022 #83

In 1933, FDR established the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC) Calista241 Jun 2022 #84

It won't instill a sense of pride if it's forced kcr Jun 2022 #95

Like I said I was just giving one example, an idea. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #99

No thanks VGNonly Jun 2022 #77

Bad idea. A pant load. nt PufPuf23 Jun 2022 #80

Oh hell no. There are better ways. yellowcanine Jun 2022 #81

I am glad that it worked out for the OP, but military service is not for everyone. Chainfire Jun 2022 #82

i'll start by saying i agree with you rampartc Jun 2022 #85

How about we *STOP* the militarization of our culture? Maybe a year of pacifist training ck4829 Jun 2022 #88

Agreed Maeve Jun 2022 #92

I understand where you are going with this, I don't think mandating military service is the answer. Gore1FL Jun 2022 #91

All good points. former9thward Jun 2022 #93

I agree, I was not clear on what I meant about a type of military training. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #105

This is never going to happen in a million years kcr Jun 2022 #94

Majority of 18 year olds can't qualify for military service madville Jun 2022 #97

I should have been more clear in my post. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #101

Yeah, no. BarackTheVote Jun 2022 #102

WOW! Talk about twisting my post. You make me sound like a Nazi. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #106

18-year-old men is scientifically an oxymoron. Adult brain development Hortensis Jun 2022 #104