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13. The Germans had a novel idea, and it worked
Tue Jun 7, 2022, 06:08 PM
Jun 2022

There was a mass outcry to the members of the Bundestag (Parliament), and they reduced the tax on gas to the point where prices dropped ten per cent in a day (!!!), and the oil companies are under pressure to join in the act and reduce their prices as well. Their argument is that existing stocks cost more, and price drops will be "soon," but the public isn't buying it.

Of course, with prices at the pump scratching $$10 per US gallon, dropping the price to $9, while appreciated, is still in stratospheric heights.

By the way, since they slyly put VAT on the entire pump price, instead of as a supplemental tax, the government was collecting tax on the tax (!!!!!). they were paying Value Added Tax on both the gas AND the mineral oil tax that was an integral part of the pump price. Something like 13 Euro cents out of every liter was tax on the tax, which is literally unconstitutional here, since the German Constitution expressly forbids double taxation. That is why a wealth tax failed at the constitutional level. It seems such a tax was arbitrarily applied to a certain ethnic group in Germany some 85 years ago, and it left a rather bitter taste in post-war memories. But sneaking it into a tax on gasoline was very clever. While illegal, no one was going to mount a class action suit for a tax that cost them a few Euros a week, so they got away with it until now. A friend of ours is a judge on the tax court here, and agreed the tax on the tax was absolutely illegal, and he would strike it down if it were to come before him. But no one has ever mounted the suit. However, a large numbers of members of parliament were deluged with local anger, and THAT got their attention.

Like Tip O'Neill said, all politics is local.

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Use less. Just use less. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #1
Until I can get an EV I may be forced to Beachnutt Jun 2022 #16
But really, the gas prices are a blessing. Bemoaning gas prices when the planet Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #20
Totally agree Beachnutt Jun 2022 #22
You can't. Your 1st 3 items aren't protests. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #2
Drive less. MineralMan Jun 2022 #3
Drive less. Vote more and better. Hortensis Jun 2022 #38
Use less and send money to UKR to defeat Russia once and for all relayerbob Jun 2022 #4
Tax the profits of the gas companies at the pumps. The gas companies set the price of gas so in2herbs Jun 2022 #5
Windfall profits tax would be an idea TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #7
Windfall profits taxes don't reduce costs... brooklynite Jun 2022 #10
It would reduce the incentive to price-gouge TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #30
Apparently a good enough idea for the UK to do it. GoodRaisin Jun 2022 #18
The money at the pump is not profit dumbcat Jun 2022 #17
No more please ripcord Jun 2022 #24
In other countries they tax $2-3 per gallon MichMan Jun 2022 #27
In other states it is much less ripcord Jun 2022 #28
Of course it would be passed on like all other taxes usually are MichMan Jun 2022 #29
So how does rasing the price of gas protest gas prices? ripcord Jun 2022 #31
Consolidate your trips -- i.e. reduce total miles driven. Pobeka Jun 2022 #6
+1. Less weight in car trunk. Proper air no_hypocrisy Jun 2022 #9
If the American public would Beachnutt Jun 2022 #11
You can protest all you want, but it won't change anything. Ocelot II Jun 2022 #8
We have a long way to go. Thunderbeast Jun 2022 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #14
Around here it's to keep dumbcat Jun 2022 #21
None of the above... Thunderbeast Jun 2022 #37
Call the city inspectors office. Tell them this is happening and you will be contacting Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #35
The Germans had a novel idea, and it worked DFW Jun 2022 #13
My state charges sales taxes on the total price (including gas taxes) MichMan Jun 2022 #15
If that is legal under Michigan law, then the state gets away with it DFW Jun 2022 #23
Simple, drive less. In 2020 when everything was shut down and we couldn't take a doc03 Jun 2022 #19
Yes, people were furloughed and everything was closed MichMan Jun 2022 #26
The op asked how we can get gas prices down, that is one way. That was extreme but doc03 Jun 2022 #33
Reverse-ICE gas pumps with EVs Shermann Jun 2022 #25
Shake your fist at the sky and yell. ZonkerHarris Jun 2022 #32
Ever notice how, whenever someone says, "How can we do better?" there is always someone Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #34
Drive absolutely minimally. Reduce demand. marmar Jun 2022 #36
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