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Dorian Gray

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91. Isn't it obvious?

Thu Jun 9, 2022, 05:39 AM

Jun 2022

The non prosecution of petty crimes led to rampant petty crime. Car break-ins. Theft at supermarket/pharmacies. Rampant homelessness. Quality of life was affected by this. In SF it wasn't just Boudin, either. You add to that the school board and their response to covid, and the majority of families felt that it was untenable and unlivable.

Boudin was radical. Maybe in a different time his non-prosecutorial policies would work better. But the chaos and destabilization over the last couple of years combined with an increase in homelessness and drug use made it untenable.

I know there are data about crime going down overall, but people SEE what's happening on the streets, but rising homelessness combined with increase in petty crimes in a city with a huge wealth disparity creates REAL problems and makes it unlivable.

We are seeing something similar rising in NYC, but we aren't quite where SF is at.

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We need to consider Boudin's loss in California [View all] ripcord Jun 2022 OP

The next recall is for Gascon in LA. ColinC Jun 2022 #1

So, who made him a scapegoat? Or just didn't get the right message out... ananda Jun 2022 #2

Likely. Short term solutions over long term ones can feel easier. ColinC Jun 2022 #3

Is unemployment high in SF and LA ? MichMan Jun 2022 #4

I just know homeless camps in LA have exponentially increaseed ColinC Jun 2022 #5

Homeless people are stealing because the cost of living is high? MichMan Jun 2022 #6

Does that idea sound unfeasible to you? ColinC Jun 2022 #7

Fortunately I have never been homeless MichMan Jun 2022 #10

I think homelessness necessitates thefts in many ways. ColinC Jun 2022 #11

(more related to my point)Camping outside of parks is illegal. ColinC Jun 2022 #8

Rents are astronomical iemanja Jun 2022 #9

Took the words right out of my mouth ColinC Jun 2022 #12

It's a lot more complicated than that. Xolodno Jun 2022 #38

Great post. Big rec Arazi Jun 2022 #71

Unemployment is low in LA Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #72

Explore: $6M poured into Boudin recall gldstwmn Jun 2022 #29

Completely dropped considering the Death Penalty? maxsolomon Jun 2022 #14

yeah... ColinC Jun 2022 #16

I thought that CA eliminated the death penatly question everything Jun 2022 #15

It is suspended, but not eliminated. ColinC Jun 2022 #18

We still have the death penalty. nt Raine Jun 2022 #19

Still on the books maxsolomon Jun 2022 #21

It was a Recall. A small percentage of the overall SF electorate participated. maxsolomon Jun 2022 #13

Pretty much my read Johonny Jun 2022 #45

Only 25% of the registered voters turned out and as we all know low voter turnout is not good for gldstwmn Jun 2022 #56

I'm not sure we can blame turnout for favoring Republicans Zeitghost Jun 2022 #57

Boudin prosecutes disgraced cop for domestic violence after Sacramento DA failed gldstwmn Jun 2022 #63

My guess is that people got tired of the car break-ins and the blatant shoplifting by drug jalan48 Jun 2022 #17

They will likely still get tired of it, as harsher punishments has not and will not reduce ColinC Jun 2022 #20

So just watch people roll shopping carts full of stuff out the door and ignore it? Actually, jalan48 Jun 2022 #24

Last I checked, DAs are not responsible for arresting shopping cart thief's. ColinC Jun 2022 #28

What do you suggest as a solution to the break-ins and shoplifting by homeless drug addicts? jalan48 Jun 2022 #32

Maybe someone could answer why SFPD has less than a 9% clearance rate for crimes. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #35

I guess it would depend on the type of crime. What was Boudin's attitude toward crime? jalan48 Jun 2022 #37

I would think that an 8.1% clearance rate is piss poor compared to any of those. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #54

... and stores were locking up everything, getting rid of carts, even closing down Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #41

Exactly. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #26

Burglaries are up 45% since he took office Sympthsical Jun 2022 #34

Same can be said for places that seek traditionally harsh punishment (ie NYC with 44%) ColinC Jun 2022 #39

We spend more money on social services than most cities in the U.S. Sympthsical Jun 2022 #47

Again same is true with NYC. ColinC Jun 2022 #49

Your police department has a budget of $700 million. Why are their arrests declining? gldstwmn Jun 2022 #61

shoplifters learned the rules...read about shoplifters yelling "you can't touch me, you can't touch Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #42

And it's spreading to the suburbs Sympthsical Jun 2022 #48

bystanders (non store workers) have started to get involved. it think, emotionally, following the Demovictory9 Jun 2022 #62

Why is Chesa Boudin responsible for what happens in the suburbs? gldstwmn Jun 2022 #64

Burglary, rape, robbery, motor vehicle theft, and arson all declined last year. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #59

My guess is it had something to do with him being a DA who refused to prosecute anyone BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #22

Only 8.1 percent of reported crimes in 2021 led to an arrest. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #65

The key word there is "reported" MichMan Jun 2022 #73

Maybe the cops should stop gaslighting them into thinking that. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #75

Yeah, I'm sure they worked hard to massage those numbers to create that stat BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #94

Those numbers are from the San Francisco police department. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #96

San Francisco recalls DA Chesa Boudin in blow to criminal justice reform gldstwmn Jun 2022 #23

Progressive DA Chesa Boudin is out, which will solve none of San Francisco's problems gldstwmn Jun 2022 #25

+10,000 ColinC Jun 2022 #30

San Francisco's crime rates fall while Sacramento's "tough-on-crime" DA presides over rising violenc gldstwmn Jun 2022 #27

The people chastising these prosecutors conveniently ignore the far worse situation ColinC Jun 2022 #50

Absolutely. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #55

How many crimes simply went unreported because the victims knew it was a waste of time ? MichMan Jun 2022 #69

You mean because the cops keep telling people they won't get prosecuted? gldstwmn Jun 2022 #74

Probably had it happen to themselves or friends before and nothing was done. MichMan Jun 2022 #76

"You hear of people arrested multiple times and they keep getting arrested and not charged" gldstwmn Jun 2022 #78

So DA Boudin never said this when he was quoted by NBC News and it was all fabricated? MichMan Jun 2022 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author jalan48 Jun 2022 #31

LE hates these DAs because Deminpenn Jun 2022 #33

And you know this but the SF voters, newspapers, etc. were too dense to see it? brooklynite Jun 2022 #51

Try watching the Independent Lens documentary Deminpenn Jun 2022 #89

Unsurprisingly, the SFPD is among Boudin's most vocal opponents. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #60

How many true cases have there been of the wrong Deminpenn Jun 2022 #90

Read this: it tells you everything you need to know Novara Jun 2022 #36

Good article. Thanks for sharing. jalan48 Jun 2022 #43

You're welcome Novara Jun 2022 #44

THANKS for the link! 👍 nt Raine Jun 2022 #46

Thank you so much for posting that link, wonderful article! betsuni Jun 2022 #52

Great article. obnoxiousdrunk Jun 2022 #58

The section on the school board is an absolute trip Sympthsical Jun 2022 #66

Allison Collins's a real clown. Her racist tweets aimed at Asians were too much. jalan48 Jun 2022 #77

They had Democrats out campaigning against him. . . . BigDemVoter Jun 2022 #40

I think a lot of people got hoodwinked yesterday. I think a lot of people in LA are gldstwmn Jun 2022 #68

I live in LA Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #81

Most of the same group is backing the Gascon recall. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #88

What bugs me is that I am of the Left. We, my type, don't dig... JanMichael Jun 2022 #53

Maybe the cops with their 8.1% clearance rate and $700 million budget could eradicate gldstwmn Jun 2022 #67

DON'T PLAY THE GAME BY REPUKE RULES! Diablo del sol Jun 2022 #70

The recall effort was backed by the San Francisco Republican Party. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #79

How many fucking Repuke voters are there in SF Diablo del sol Jun 2022 #80

I live in California and have to laugh when people blame Republicans for things they don't like ripcord Jun 2022 #83

Right! Diablo del sol Jun 2022 #84

The San Francisco Republican Party backed Boudin's recall. That's a fact, Jack. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #85

Exactly Raine Jun 2022 #86

25% of registered voters, not Democrats. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #87

Isn't it obvious? Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #91

Chesa Boudin did exactly what he said he was going to do as DA. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #95

People voted for him Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #97

They were hoodwinked by a campaign to recall supported by Republicans, specifically gldstwmn Jun 2022 #98

They were hoodwinked? Dorian Gray Jun 2022 #99

I have laid it out in this thread. Again 25% of the electorate voted in the recall. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #100

People fell for a bunch of right wing copaganda AntivaxHunters Jun 2022 #92

They sure did. They have been working at it since gldstwmn Jun 2022 #93