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83. First off it is a right

Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:34 PM

Oct 2012

Ask China about how easy it is to take away reproductive rights.

Second does the same apply to voting and free speech? Should 18 year old "children" have those rights?

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5th circuit rules against allowing children to buy handguns [View all] jenw2 Oct 2012 OP

"well regulated" allows....regulations ta da! nt msongs Oct 2012 #1

Whether they are rational or not. nt hack89 Oct 2012 #11

i think you're more upset by this than by all the threads about childhood poverty CreekDog Oct 2012 #24

No - not upset. Just pointing out the irrationality of the ruling. hack89 Oct 2012 #28

What's irrational about that KamaAina Oct 2012 #77

Explain why please? eqfan592 Oct 2012 #79

One is semiautomatic KamaAina Oct 2012 #85

An 18 yo can buy an AK-47 clone glacierbay Oct 2012 #90

There are most certainly semi-automatic "hunting" rifles. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #93

Then they're not "plain old hunting rifles" KamaAina Oct 2012 #103

That's your opinion. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #105

I'm trying to *help* you guys. KamaAina Oct 2012 #106

Let me rephrase. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #111

Making the gun laws sane and reasonable. KamaAina Oct 2012 #114

Sorry, but that is still not what I'm asking. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #115

I know - that hunting rifle is much more powerful hack89 Oct 2012 #81

18, 19 or 20 = children? hack89 Oct 2012 #2

And the legal drinking age is 21... joeybee12 Oct 2012 #23

Why can 18 - 20 year olds buy "assault weapons" but not handguns? hack89 Oct 2012 #26

I would. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #47

I think 18 year olds should be allowed to drink obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #88

This is like arguing that the voting age should be raised back up to 21. Selatius Oct 2012 #136

Wow. They actually went there? Whovian Oct 2012 #3

The "children" in this ruling are 18-20 year olds. nt hack89 Oct 2012 #6

I read it. Nothing comforts me more that a pissed off 18 rear old with a Glock. Whovian Oct 2012 #8

Yet that 18 year old can be trusted to vote and fight wars? OK.. nt hack89 Oct 2012 #9

Doesn't make it right. How'sabout an 18 year old president? Whovian Oct 2012 #12

So why can that 18 year legally buy a semi-automatic rifle? hack89 Oct 2012 #14

The flaw in your thinking is expecting the law to make logical sense, hack89. slackmaster Oct 2012 #16

Reminds me of this scene from Willy Wonka (old version)! reformist2 Oct 2012 #4

The court implicitly ruled that "children" can buy semiautomatic rifles. hack89 Oct 2012 #5

Whatt a load of crap Marinedem Oct 2012 #7

You're wrong jenw2 Oct 2012 #20

At 50 you are still a child of your parents whistler162 Oct 2012 #21

This ruling says that "children" can buy assualt weapons hack89 Oct 2012 #32

And of course that means the drinking age should be 26 as well? hack89 Oct 2012 #33

That's gotta be the dumbest argument I've seen today. nt. glacierbay Oct 2012 #43

Do you think children should vote? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #70

Society says at age 18 you're now adult enough to be fully responsible for your actions Ya Basta Oct 2012 #74

I am sure in the interest of fairness SQUEE Oct 2012 #82

Such "children" can volunteer for the military 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #69

An 18-year-old can vote, join the military and be issued any kind of weapon slackmaster Oct 2012 #10

An 18YO can get pregnant, impregnate, and do lots of things. Whovian Oct 2012 #13

But it is their right 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #71

More than a "right" it's a natural law. Whovian Oct 2012 #80

First off it is a right 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #83

Biological functions can't really be taken away. Punished maybe Whovian Oct 2012 #94

I think somebody missed the train... eqfan592 Oct 2012 #97

Really? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #102

what gets me is that you have no problem with them being denied a college education CreekDog Oct 2012 #25

Please provide evidence to support your assertion that I have no problem... slackmaster Oct 2012 #31

Oh, you can't. slackmaster Oct 2012 #53

+1 CreekDog Whovian Oct 2012 #48

Oh please do speak your mind. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #55

Thanks, but no thanks. Whovian Oct 2012 #56

Color me shocked. (nt) eqfan592 Oct 2012 #61

Okay, you're shocked. Okay, have learned that here anti-gun statements Whovian Oct 2012 #109

BUWAHAHAHAHAHA!! And that right there, is a duzy if I ever heard one. (nt) eqfan592 Oct 2012 #112

You haven't learned a blessed thing slackmaster Oct 2012 #118

true. CreekDog Oct 2012 #119

Arguing with you people is like arguing with teabaggers. Whovian Oct 2012 #128

Which would be a true statement had you been speaking into a mirror. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #129

Please explain exactly what you mean by the term "you people" slackmaster Oct 2012 #131

Sorry, not going to bite. Whovian Oct 2012 #135

That's cowardly behavior slackmaster Oct 2012 #137

Well, I don't have a gun like you. And frankly, you scare me. Whovian Oct 2012 #138

I've had a lot of people say a lot of different things to me in the real world slackmaster Oct 2012 #139

I think it's some of that paranoia and irrational fear that we've been hearing about.... (nt) eqfan592 Oct 2012 #140

Probably because they were afraid to. Whovian Oct 2012 #141

You have just tipped your hand slackmaster Oct 2012 #142

As serious as a heart attack. Whovian Oct 2012 #143

Please explain exactly what you mean by the term "your ilk" slackmaster Oct 2012 #144

You have over 56K posts which allows one to discern your "ilk." Whovian Oct 2012 #146

More cowardly behavior. Why won't you simply say what you mean and get it out in the open? slackmaster Oct 2012 #147

Well, I can't They'd ban me. Besides I don't get paid for jabbering with you so CYA. Whovian Oct 2012 #149

You seem to have a lot of hatred for someone you barely know anything about slackmaster Oct 2012 #150

No, I don't hate you. For you it's economic and probably far worse. Whovian Oct 2012 #152

Well, you can relax now slackmaster Oct 2012 #154

Whut? Fla_Democrat Oct 2012 #155

my post applies to more than one person CreekDog Oct 2012 #117

Yes, you are now the keeper of the litmus test for being a "liberal." eqfan592 Oct 2012 #124

no, but thanks for playing! CreekDog Oct 2012 #126

lol, did you really think what you said was that funny? eqfan592 Oct 2012 #130

Are you saying that in reply #25 that the word "you" should be construed as "you people?" slackmaster Oct 2012 #134

None of the 18-20 year olds will complain about this bongbong Oct 2012 #15

Those 18-20 and younger sarisataka Oct 2012 #17

And guns will help how? bongbong Oct 2012 #35

I did not say guns would help... sarisataka Oct 2012 #37

LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #122

Funny sarisataka Oct 2012 #127

Ask the 18-20 year olds living in gang infested neighborhoods about fear. hack89 Oct 2012 #18

HAHAHAHA bongbong Oct 2012 #34

So young people living in Chicago and DC have no reason to be fearful? hack89 Oct 2012 #57

Nice try, I confronted gang-bangers for years in Yakima without a freaking gun in hand rustydog Oct 2012 #44

The point is that young people living in such an environment know and understand fear hack89 Oct 2012 #58

Fear? bongbong Oct 2012 #108

I seldom carry in public so I don't see your point hack89 Oct 2012 #110

Yep! bongbong Oct 2012 #123

Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #125

Well I guess we all know who the real delicate flowers are. ;) eqfan592 Oct 2012 #133

Yes! bongbong Oct 2012 #151

In my experience, there is no flower more delicate than those who think hughee99 Oct 2012 #51

Yes! bongbong Oct 2012 #121

HAHAHAHAHAHA! That went right over your head, didn't it bongbong? eqfan592 Oct 2012 #132

LOL bongbong Oct 2012 #148

The appellants were 18-21 years old. Does filing suit count as a complaint? n/t sl8 Oct 2012 #153

I'd call it a win for age discrimination. TBF Oct 2012 #19

The misleading title really needs to be corrected. ManiacJoe Oct 2012 #22

But the misleading title is the only reason this was posted cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #49

Wait - what? Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #27

No - unless you consider 18 to 20 year old men and women "children" hack89 Oct 2012 #29

Why do you believe everything somebody posts on DU cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #46

Or you know, adults 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #73

No, 18-20 year olds obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #92

what do you expect form courts dominated by Constitution hating gun grabbing activist Judges? Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #30

Nice summary of the way Delicate Flowers think bongbong Oct 2012 #36

You should really look at the statistical evidence, both pre and post ban, in all of those nations. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #101

In the case of No Shit Sherlock versus Common Fucking Sense. nt Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #38

More like the case of "total crap headline in the OP." eqfan592 Oct 2012 #40

Read first. Comment after. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #45

Plenty of 20-yr old combat-hardened vets in recent years NickB79 Oct 2012 #39

Well, at age 18 glacierbay Oct 2012 #41

This OP headline is offensive. The same "children" can serve in the military. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #42

I wonder how many 18-20 year old DUers ... JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2012 #50

I wasn't considered a "child" glacierbay Oct 2012 #54

You'd be surprised... Lightbulb_on Oct 2012 #145

Well Hallelujah... WCGreen Oct 2012 #52

Unless they join the military. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #60

Except that "children" can legally buy "assault weapons" hack89 Oct 2012 #62

Do you consider 18-20 yo glacierbay Oct 2012 #64

At 18 you can legally enter into a contract... WCGreen Oct 2012 #68

What I don't understand is that glacierbay Oct 2012 #72

It doesn't make any sense at all. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #76

The booze one is BS... -..__... Oct 2012 #78

At worst, it's a minor roadblock to progress and 2nd amendment rights. -..__... Oct 2012 #59

Ya know, there's another group of people that attempts to mislead in order to promote their... eqfan592 Oct 2012 #63

Uh Oh, you went there glacierbay Oct 2012 #65

And they'll probably win, which is sad, but it is what it is. eqfan592 Oct 2012 #67

FALSE OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!! n/t bamacrat Oct 2012 #66

Did you know they started giving social security to children? 4th law of robotics Oct 2012 #75

When did an 18 year old become a child. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #84

When I was 18 glacierbay Oct 2012 #87

Maybe that is a part of it. My father was just over that age when he was in nam. NCTraveler Oct 2012 #99

Your title is misleading, and on purpose obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #86

Self-styled propagandists view all others with contempt cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #96

I wonder why other countries think we're fucking insane? Yul A Oct 2012 #89

Do tell us why. nt. glacierbay Oct 2012 #91

You mean because some of us call 20 year-olds children? cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #100

Yet in most states an 18 year old can legally OWN and POSSESS a handgun hack89 Oct 2012 #95

Underscoring how this law and ruling makes even less sense... (nt) eqfan592 Oct 2012 #98

You should probably just edit your subject line gollygee Oct 2012 #104

Someone was trying to allow minors the right to buy handguns? ileus Oct 2012 #107

No, unless one thinks 18, 19, and 20 year olds are minors obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #113

18,19,20 kids maybe, but otherwise legal adults...where did the OP get chillin's from? ileus Oct 2012 #116

I guess from thin air obamanut2012 Oct 2012 #120