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wnylib

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56. I don't think that you are wrong.

Fri Jun 10, 2022, 09:48 AM

Jun 2022

I think that you are spot on.

I also can't overlook the irony of Dick Cheney's daughter opposing a coup, considering the 2000 election. The difference between Bush/Cheney in 2000 and Trump in 2020 is that Trump was more violent. But Bush/Cheney laid the groundwork for violence when they hired thugs to disrupt the vote count in Florida. They were willing to use physical aggression to supplement their court cases.

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Were you all "shocked" by new information last night? [View all] tavernier Jun 2022 OP

No one should be shocked and there is a lot more we have yet to learn. madaboutharry Jun 2022 #1

I learned new things. Most of it I heard from Rachel's show before. So I was not shocked mucifer Jun 2022 #2

Same here. There were a few new things to me. wnylib Jun 2022 #43

I was not shocked. 2naSalit Jun 2022 #3

The Republicans who asked for pardons after the attack caught my attention. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #4

Yes, they need to read aloud each name. That will come. mobeau69 Jun 2022 #9

a long list I hope onethatcares Jun 2022 #21

Gosar, Biggs, Perry, and one other that I can't remember. tblue37 Jun 2022 #72

Not schocked Delphinus Jun 2022 #5

Likely because you follow the news more closely than dewsgirl Jun 2022 #6

We follow this stuff more than most journalists as well. n/t Whiskeytide Jun 2022 #59

Indeed, I felt like I had studied to get a degree dewsgirl Jun 2022 #93

Sometimes I'll watch a panel on CNN/MSNBC and think to myself, dewsgirl Jun 2022 #99

Exactly. I'm slapping a lot of my friends ... Whiskeytide Jun 2022 #100

I was surprised that Ivanka Trumpsky said that she took to heart Barr's Harker Jun 2022 #7

Ivanka and Jared appeared as scared rabbits bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #16

Yes. There's a lot of bad wood underneath the veneer. n/t Harker Jun 2022 #33

I'm surprised that they testified at all wnylib Jun 2022 #44

I was not shocked mercuryblues Jun 2022 #8

✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t msfiddlestix Jun 2022 #47

Wish I could recommend your post a thousand times! hamsterjill Jun 2022 #48

Not shocked, but I certainly learned details I didn't know like Tomconroy Jun 2022 #10

Yea, that was the shocker for me. Karma13612 Jun 2022 #35

I watched on PBS News Hour. wnylib Jun 2022 #45

Sounds like I might want to try that for Monday's Karma13612 Jun 2022 #83

Only in that they actually implicated tfg so bluntly. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #11

I was a bit surprised at the blunt statements wnylib Jun 2022 #49

I'm not shocked . .... Lovie777 Jun 2022 #12

Surprised the coup was entirely Maestro driven top down without a hint of grass roots input bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #13

Surprised that we hadn't heard much before about the activities of the militia guys. barbaraann Jun 2022 #14

Coups have their leaders, their foot soldiers, and their muscle bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #22

Oh, that is interesting. barbaraann Jun 2022 #30

This deserves its own thread, imo. msfiddlestix Jun 2022 #62

And Putin is, at heart, an old Bolshevik in the Stalin mode bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #63

oh yeah, now that I think about it anarch Jun 2022 #79

Trump was no Vladimir Lenin /nt bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #80

haha! I'm imagining that being read with intense gravitas by James Earl Jones... anarch Jun 2022 #81

Yep Lenin was an action leader. Intelligent and driven. Drumpf not so much. JanMichael Jun 2022 #89

I'm wondering if the next "serious man" tavernier Jun 2022 #96

Bingo! barbaraann Jun 2022 #98

i was surprised by the group of proud boys who headed to the capital mopinko Jun 2022 #36

That was new to me too. I had not heard of the 10:30am pre-speech maneuver. JanMichael Jun 2022 #90

Seeing it presented cogently and coldly and all the facts being brought Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #15

I was surprised ... Novara Jun 2022 #17

Yeah. That lineup asking for preemptive pardons really was shocking. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #18

I am betting the farm that they will Novara Jun 2022 #19

Me too. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #20

The preemptive pardons surprised me, too. wnylib Jun 2022 #53

good question Novara Jun 2022 #61

If he did grant any of them, then the next question is wnylib Jun 2022 #66

interesting Novara Jun 2022 #68

RICO case. nt Justice matters. Jun 2022 #71

The only thing thst surprised me was how many people told him what he was doing was illegal. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #52

One shocking revelation last night: sop Jun 2022 #23

I want to hear the names of all who wanted a pardon. livetohike Jun 2022 #25

Same here. I want to know the full list of names of those who begged for pardons onetexan Jun 2022 #40

I was shocked by the new video. Also, I learned a few livetohike Jun 2022 #24

I was surprised how well Pence came off in this whole mess. sop Jun 2022 #28

Pence put Country first over loyalty to Trump. The sane livetohike Jun 2022 #31

If I look at just Pence and Cheney Karma13612 Jun 2022 #37

I don't think that you are wrong. wnylib Jun 2022 #56

They keep Karma13612 Jun 2022 #84

Wow. You had the exact impression I had. Exactly what I was wondering. Cheney is exceedingly msfiddlestix Jun 2022 #69

Yea, same with me regarding the gut instinct. Karma13612 Jun 2022 #85

pence is guilty of concealing the criminal plot he was asked to exectute by not reporting it to the Justice matters. Jun 2022 #77

MAGA's don't like him. Karma13612 Jun 2022 #87

pence is guilty of concealing the criminal plot he was asked to exectute by not reporting it to the Justice matters. Jun 2022 #75

pence is guilty of concealing the criminal plot he was asked to exectute by not reporting it to the Justice matters. Jun 2022 #74

Yes, indeed. Yet Liz Cheney gave high praises to Pence in her presentation for his loyalty to msfiddlestix Jun 2022 #97

What Trump said with regards to the "Hang Mike Pence" chants was new to me... SKKY Jun 2022 #26

Caroline Edwards' testimony was new to me; prior babylonsister Jun 2022 #27

The Congress members asking for pardons afterwards was new to me. nt LexVegas Jun 2022 #29

"Shocked" No nothing Trump does shocks me. If they had a video of Trump ordering the Proud Boys doc03 Jun 2022 #32

I'd be surprised by that Silent3 Jun 2022 #54

I would bet my SS check he has had people "taken care of " nt doc03 Jun 2022 #55

As many stated above, there was new information tavernier Jun 2022 #34

Nothing shocked me, but I'm more informed than an ignorant Fox viewer. Emile Jun 2022 #38

I was shocked cally Jun 2022 #39

Not shocked, except for the quote from tfg in reference to pence ecstatic Jun 2022 #41

There was a lot to digest. kentuck Jun 2022 #42

Not shocked, but I certainly got some new detail. Chainfire Jun 2022 #46

Not shocked. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #50

Either I had heard it all before, or if I hadn't heard... Silent3 Jun 2022 #51

For me it was the letters to the states CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #57

There were a few things. patphil Jun 2022 #58

Just appalled by the depravity of DFT and company RainCaster Jun 2022 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author LizBeth Jun 2022 #64

Maybe a little by the pardon thing. Patton French Jun 2022 #65

I was shocked and pleased with how competently and hard-hitting it was done. Paladin Jun 2022 #67

No, am I'm a little disappointed I didn't win Bingo Brother Buzz Jun 2022 #70

Info about the Proud Boys casing the Deminpenn Jun 2022 #73

Incredibly sad, but not shocked. budkin Jun 2022 #76

The testimony from US Capital Policeman Caroline Edwards Emile Jun 2022 #78

It would take a lot to shock me. I was shocked on the day that it happened, gldstwmn Jun 2022 #82

Yea, I remember it as clear as I remember Karma13612 Jun 2022 #86

It was definitely one of those moments. My first one of those was when Reagan was shot. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #88

Yea, I can't imagine Karma13612 Jun 2022 #91

I've found that DU is way ahead of the curve lunatica Jun 2022 #92

I have not watched most of it Meowmee Jun 2022 #94

One surprise. a lot of filling in the details MissMillie Jun 2022 #95