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58. There were a few things.

Fri Jun 10, 2022, 10:06 AM

Jun 2022

I hadn't realized the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were at the Capitol at 10:30AM, and the attack was underway before the mob arrived. Also, that they knew which windows and doors weren't reinforced.

It was the first time I actually heard Wm. Barr's testimony from him. And, was surprised to hear Ivanka say she believed Attorney General Barr. It was interesting to note that she didn't say her father was lying about election manipulation, but that she believed Barr, who said the whole election rigging and voter fraud thing was bullshit, thus implying her father lied.

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Were you all "shocked" by new information last night? [View all] tavernier Jun 2022 OP

No one should be shocked and there is a lot more we have yet to learn. madaboutharry Jun 2022 #1

I learned new things. Most of it I heard from Rachel's show before. So I was not shocked mucifer Jun 2022 #2

Same here. There were a few new things to me. wnylib Jun 2022 #43

I was not shocked. 2naSalit Jun 2022 #3

The Republicans who asked for pardons after the attack caught my attention. fightforfreedom Jun 2022 #4

Yes, they need to read aloud each name. That will come. mobeau69 Jun 2022 #9

a long list I hope onethatcares Jun 2022 #21

Gosar, Biggs, Perry, and one other that I can't remember. tblue37 Jun 2022 #72

Not schocked Delphinus Jun 2022 #5

Likely because you follow the news more closely than dewsgirl Jun 2022 #6

We follow this stuff more than most journalists as well. n/t Whiskeytide Jun 2022 #59

Indeed, I felt like I had studied to get a degree dewsgirl Jun 2022 #93

Sometimes I'll watch a panel on CNN/MSNBC and think to myself, dewsgirl Jun 2022 #99

Exactly. I'm slapping a lot of my friends ... Whiskeytide Jun 2022 #100

I was surprised that Ivanka Trumpsky said that she took to heart Barr's Harker Jun 2022 #7

Ivanka and Jared appeared as scared rabbits bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #16

Yes. There's a lot of bad wood underneath the veneer. n/t Harker Jun 2022 #33

I'm surprised that they testified at all wnylib Jun 2022 #44

I was not shocked mercuryblues Jun 2022 #8

✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ ✔️ n/t msfiddlestix Jun 2022 #47

Wish I could recommend your post a thousand times! hamsterjill Jun 2022 #48

Not shocked, but I certainly learned details I didn't know like Tomconroy Jun 2022 #10

Yea, that was the shocker for me. Karma13612 Jun 2022 #35

I watched on PBS News Hour. wnylib Jun 2022 #45

Sounds like I might want to try that for Monday's Karma13612 Jun 2022 #83

Only in that they actually implicated tfg so bluntly. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #11

I was a bit surprised at the blunt statements wnylib Jun 2022 #49

I'm not shocked . .... Lovie777 Jun 2022 #12

Surprised the coup was entirely Maestro driven top down without a hint of grass roots input bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #13

Surprised that we hadn't heard much before about the activities of the militia guys. barbaraann Jun 2022 #14

Coups have their leaders, their foot soldiers, and their muscle bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #22

Oh, that is interesting. barbaraann Jun 2022 #30

This deserves its own thread, imo. msfiddlestix Jun 2022 #62

And Putin is, at heart, an old Bolshevik in the Stalin mode bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #63

oh yeah, now that I think about it anarch Jun 2022 #79

Trump was no Vladimir Lenin /nt bucolic_frolic Jun 2022 #80

haha! I'm imagining that being read with intense gravitas by James Earl Jones... anarch Jun 2022 #81

Yep Lenin was an action leader. Intelligent and driven. Drumpf not so much. JanMichael Jun 2022 #89

I'm wondering if the next "serious man" tavernier Jun 2022 #96

Bingo! barbaraann Jun 2022 #98

i was surprised by the group of proud boys who headed to the capital mopinko Jun 2022 #36

That was new to me too. I had not heard of the 10:30am pre-speech maneuver. JanMichael Jun 2022 #90

Seeing it presented cogently and coldly and all the facts being brought Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #15

I was surprised ... Novara Jun 2022 #17

Yeah. That lineup asking for preemptive pardons really was shocking. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #18

I am betting the farm that they will Novara Jun 2022 #19

Me too. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #20

The preemptive pardons surprised me, too. wnylib Jun 2022 #53

good question Novara Jun 2022 #61

If he did grant any of them, then the next question is wnylib Jun 2022 #66

interesting Novara Jun 2022 #68

RICO case. nt Justice matters. Jun 2022 #71

The only thing thst surprised me was how many people told him what he was doing was illegal. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #52

One shocking revelation last night: sop Jun 2022 #23

I want to hear the names of all who wanted a pardon. livetohike Jun 2022 #25

Same here. I want to know the full list of names of those who begged for pardons onetexan Jun 2022 #40

I was shocked by the new video. Also, I learned a few livetohike Jun 2022 #24

I was surprised how well Pence came off in this whole mess. sop Jun 2022 #28

Pence put Country first over loyalty to Trump. The sane livetohike Jun 2022 #31

If I look at just Pence and Cheney Karma13612 Jun 2022 #37

I don't think that you are wrong. wnylib Jun 2022 #56

They keep Karma13612 Jun 2022 #84

Wow. You had the exact impression I had. Exactly what I was wondering. Cheney is exceedingly msfiddlestix Jun 2022 #69

Yea, same with me regarding the gut instinct. Karma13612 Jun 2022 #85

pence is guilty of concealing the criminal plot he was asked to exectute by not reporting it to the Justice matters. Jun 2022 #77

MAGA's don't like him. Karma13612 Jun 2022 #87

pence is guilty of concealing the criminal plot he was asked to exectute by not reporting it to the Justice matters. Jun 2022 #75

pence is guilty of concealing the criminal plot he was asked to exectute by not reporting it to the Justice matters. Jun 2022 #74

Yes, indeed. Yet Liz Cheney gave high praises to Pence in her presentation for his loyalty to msfiddlestix Jun 2022 #97

What Trump said with regards to the "Hang Mike Pence" chants was new to me... SKKY Jun 2022 #26

Caroline Edwards' testimony was new to me; prior babylonsister Jun 2022 #27

The Congress members asking for pardons afterwards was new to me. nt LexVegas Jun 2022 #29

"Shocked" No nothing Trump does shocks me. If they had a video of Trump ordering the Proud Boys doc03 Jun 2022 #32

I'd be surprised by that Silent3 Jun 2022 #54

I would bet my SS check he has had people "taken care of " nt doc03 Jun 2022 #55

As many stated above, there was new information tavernier Jun 2022 #34

Nothing shocked me, but I'm more informed than an ignorant Fox viewer. Emile Jun 2022 #38

I was shocked cally Jun 2022 #39

Not shocked, except for the quote from tfg in reference to pence ecstatic Jun 2022 #41

There was a lot to digest. kentuck Jun 2022 #42

Not shocked, but I certainly got some new detail. Chainfire Jun 2022 #46

Not shocked. hamsterjill Jun 2022 #50

Either I had heard it all before, or if I hadn't heard... Silent3 Jun 2022 #51

For me it was the letters to the states CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #57

There were a few things. patphil Jun 2022 #58

Just appalled by the depravity of DFT and company RainCaster Jun 2022 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author LizBeth Jun 2022 #64

Maybe a little by the pardon thing. Patton French Jun 2022 #65

I was shocked and pleased with how competently and hard-hitting it was done. Paladin Jun 2022 #67

No, am I'm a little disappointed I didn't win Bingo Brother Buzz Jun 2022 #70

Info about the Proud Boys casing the Deminpenn Jun 2022 #73

Incredibly sad, but not shocked. budkin Jun 2022 #76

The testimony from US Capital Policeman Caroline Edwards Emile Jun 2022 #78

It would take a lot to shock me. I was shocked on the day that it happened, gldstwmn Jun 2022 #82

Yea, I remember it as clear as I remember Karma13612 Jun 2022 #86

It was definitely one of those moments. My first one of those was when Reagan was shot. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #88

Yea, I can't imagine Karma13612 Jun 2022 #91

I've found that DU is way ahead of the curve lunatica Jun 2022 #92

I have not watched most of it Meowmee Jun 2022 #94

One surprise. a lot of filling in the details MissMillie Jun 2022 #95