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Bernardo de La Paz

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121. Systematic abuse enabled by churches is just as systematic as systematic racism
Tue Jun 14, 2022, 05:01 AM
Jun 2022

Shuffling priests and pastors around enables them by giving them new victims instead of stopping them when it could be stopped (prison).

The institution holds itself to the highest standard.

More accurately, they pretend to hold high standards but are as bad as any other group and worse than most because they enable the abuse in secret with no transparency or accountability unless victims survive the psychological trauma without suicide and then sue.

That's what it takes because the abuse is systematically enabled.

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Most Catholics I know did not like that Pope. LisaM Jun 2022 #1
It's really not about the Pope.... Nevilledog Jun 2022 #2
Then why mock the vestments of catholic clergy? whathehell Jun 2022 #15
Alrighty Nevilledog Jun 2022 #17
That's not an answer to the question. whathehell Jun 2022 #22
It's about the hypocrisy. Nevilledog Jun 2022 #26
What "hypocrisy"? whathehell Jun 2022 #28
That cardinal has covered up for child molesting priests. Mariana Jun 2022 #30
Boom... mic drop for Mariana. Vdizzle Jun 2022 #55
Ouch! Prof. Toru Tanaka Jun 2022 #58
What does that have to do with the quote? whathehell Jun 2022 #60
Yeah! And shitty spelling, too! nt aka-chmeee Jun 2022 #77
LOL geardaddy Jun 2022 #90
The Hypocrisy of Catholic Priests raping young children then preaching morality. nt Tommymac Jun 2022 #76
What part of "Catholic priests are NO more likely to molest whathehell Jun 2022 #108
Opaque churches have no accountability and systematically ENABLE the molestation Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2022 #123
What the hell is an "opaque" church? whathehell Jun 2022 #133
You don't know the term, and then blithely sail forth and use it wrongly. What the hell? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2022 #136
Lol..We both know I know what the term "opaque" means.. whathehell Jun 2022 #137
This message was self-deleted by its author Tommymac Jun 2022 #127
I thought it was Pope Benedict. LisaM Jun 2022 #33
Do you think it possible to change the rcc's patriarchal attitude toward women? niyad Jun 2022 #43
that's the centuries old secret of authoritarian power - masturbation increased through certainot Jun 2022 #91
Not sure, but it doesn't matter, as it's just whathehell Jun 2022 #48
There's plenty of bad history in the catholic church from which to choose. SouthernDem4ever Jun 2022 #56
Lol..You're not very familiar with Catholicism, Lutheranism, whathehell Jun 2022 #59
My point wasn't that it was just catholics but that was your current reference SouthernDem4ever Jun 2022 #75
There's bad history everywhere, but, again, whathehell Jun 2022 #95
Sad isn't it? And I was brought up catholic. SouthernDem4ever Jun 2022 #119
Sad for who? whathehell Jun 2022 #135
Not only that but it's linking, purposely or not, pedophilia and gay. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #93
Oh, please. paleotn Jun 2022 #36
Lol.."oh please" my ass whathehell Jun 2022 #46
You haven't read Luke. A HERETIC I AM Jun 2022 #54
Um, that quote says nothing about "infidels", whathehell Jun 2022 #57
Is there a bible study forum here? CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #78
Lol..Fine with me, The only problem with your suggestion whathehell Jun 2022 #104
Crusades, anyone??? El Camino Reyal?? The Burning Times? Inquisition? niyad Jun 2022 #82
Yes, but those were all a VERY long time ago, weren't they? whathehell Jun 2022 #100
Seriously?? What, exactly, do you think was the point of the Crusades? niyad Jun 2022 #110
Yes, seriously, and the "point" of the Crusades was whathehell Jun 2022 #118
This message was self-deleted by its author chia Jun 2022 #41
An Episcopalian priest once told me soldierant Jun 2022 #49
The problem is, there is no attribution to the quote about " drag shows' whathehell Jun 2022 #53
Yeah I am sure there are no catholics that are against drag shows. CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #79
Bigotry against...a voluntary set of beliefs? You betcha, if they promote evil. NullTuples Jun 2022 #61
A "'voluntary' set of beliefs"? whathehell Jun 2022 #65
Nobody chooses to believe something? CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #80
Do you have examples to the contrary? whathehell Jun 2022 #107
I am choosing to not believe your statement. CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #109
Lol..Such a wise choice whathehell Jun 2022 #116
What do you mean I just answered your question. CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #120
It is bigotry earned through hypocrisy. n/t Frostlight Jun 2022 #63
More than other religions?.. whathehell Jun 2022 #64
How about all or most religions? CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #81
Then how about INDICATING "all or most" religions whathehell Jun 2022 #103
Because they wear dresses and that was the point of the op? CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #126
Lol..Ignorant much? whathehell Jun 2022 #128
Call them what you want.... Dresses, gowns, vestements CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #129
Lol..No, I call them what they are.. whathehell Jun 2022 #131
I am not arguing. CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #132
Yep. BlackSkimmer Jun 2022 #92
That's not a pope. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #5
That's not any recent pope I recognize. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #13
Google says that's a German cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Muller IronLionZion Jun 2022 #24
He's known to have covered up for child raping priests. nt. Mariana Jun 2022 #32
Most Cardinals in most places have. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #37
Yeah, I think Pope Francis is a genuinely decent man of God SunImp Jun 2022 #67
Let me know when he sees women as fully autonomous human beings. niyad Jun 2022 #83
Calling him progressive is an insult to progressives. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2022 #85
Are you sure that isn't a bishop? treestar Jun 2022 #105
It's Cardinal Gerhard Mueller. Mariana Jun 2022 #113
I distincltly remember the male staff in Junior High Lars39 Jun 2022 #3
My high school was one of many that had a "powderpuff" football game before homecoming. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #6
Had those, too. Lars39 Jun 2022 #8
There is this.... multigraincracker Jun 2022 #4
Trump's true love!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2022 #11
And then there's this... dickthegrouch Jun 2022 #7
Since I live under a rock, I have to ask: Are parents taking their kids to drag queen story hour? sop Jun 2022 #9
It's often held in public libraries or private businesses like brewpubs or restaurants. WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2022 #10
Need to remove all King James Bibles, he was gay.. multigraincracker Jun 2022 #14
LOL! So he was! soldierant Jun 2022 #50
Political talking points for GOP and votes. They are running out of stuff, so they go pick on RKP5637 Jun 2022 #12
Get back to republican values and morality keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #16
The same folks bitching about these drag shows also watched Milton Berle and Bugs Bunny. Efilroft Sul Jun 2022 #18
Jonathan Winters. Johnny Carson. Flip Wilson. niyad Jun 2022 #40
Good additions, thank you! Efilroft Sul Jun 2022 #51
Mrs Doubtfire and Tootsie BidenRocks Jun 2022 #89
Churches are grooming children. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2022 #19
Bullshit...Studies show clergy are no more likely whathehell Jun 2022 #23
Agree, and I have given that same kind of proof before here... TomWilm Jun 2022 #27
One of these 'drag queens' was Agent Smith. Quite macho. keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #39
Many of the real draq queens are very macho too ... TomWilm Jun 2022 #47
Nonetheless Mblaze Jun 2022 #34
I agree, whathehell Jun 2022 #97
It may not be fair Mblaze Jun 2022 #138
Which makes them no better suited to discuss morality with the country. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2022 #86
Who said they were? You're missing the entire point of my posts whathehell Jun 2022 #96
They say they are. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2022 #125
So do Protestant Evangelicals.. whathehell Jun 2022 #130
Agreed. RevBrotherThomas Jun 2022 #88
Are there ANY institution with members accused of child abuse whathehell Jun 2022 #98
Are there ANY institutions with members accused of child abuse whathehell Jun 2022 #99
another media frenzy treestar Jun 2022 #114
"No more likely" is not what churches pretend to aim for. Abuse is enabled by opaque churches Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2022 #122
I understand that completely... whathehell Jun 2022 #134
Probably more so than anywhere else. rubbersole Jun 2022 #38
Not churches. Clergy. Even if the church later covers up, it srtill didn't do the grroming. soldierant Jun 2022 #112
Systematic abuse enabled by churches is just as systematic as systematic racism Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2022 #121
Jesus Camp aeromanKC Jun 2022 #20
LOL! Now that's a fancy mumu! Martin68 Jun 2022 #21
Truman Capote Mblaze Jun 2022 #35
High schools had jocks dress in drag because they thought it was funny IronLionZion Jun 2022 #25
That's crazy, one thing kids understand is make-believe Walleye Jun 2022 #29
K and R Ferrets are Cool Jun 2022 #31
What is with this sudden (to me, at least) whining about children and drag shows! niyad Jun 2022 #42
As far as I can see, the quote completly lacks attribution whathehell Jun 2022 #52
Am guessing it is a response to one of the latest vomits from boebert. niyad Jun 2022 #84
Really?. Then why not show Boebert whathehell Jun 2022 #102
Why don't you ask the OP? I simply opined that it might be related to qbert's niyad Jun 2022 #111
It's called a "rhetorical question" whathehell Jun 2022 #115
I understand completely. niyad Jun 2022 #117
Pretty much a very accurate restatement of what DeSantis said yesterday Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2022 #87
So why not show DeSantis' picture instead of that whathehell Jun 2022 #101
The point is the hypocrisy. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2022 #124
But it's absolutely fine to kacekwl Jun 2022 #44
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2022 #45
Well, it does lead to some pretty disgusting behavior ... (hurl warning) eppur_se_muova Jun 2022 #62
If I had kids.. IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #66
If you change that 2nd to last sentence, Duppers Jun 2022 #68
I wish I could, sadly IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #69
Absolutely! No doubt. Duppers Jun 2022 #70
I don't blame you IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #71
I'm so envious. Duppers Jun 2022 #72
My parents both quit attending shortly after turning 18 IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #73
My envy continues. 😉 Duppers Jun 2022 #74
You're welcome IngridsLittleAngel Jun 2022 #94
That's a pretty narrow notion of what men should dress like. iemanja Jun 2022 #106
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