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In reply to the discussion: Did Grassley give away the game? [View all]Ohio Joe
(21,898 posts)We know Pence talked to Quayle in December about if he could reject the electors:
Quayle was in some ways a proto-Pence. A vice president from Indiana, Quayle was a younger conservative brought onto the ticket to bolster the bona fides of a presidential candidate whose own record was less than impressive to some on the right. It makes sense that Pence called Quayle when deciding how to respond to Trumps demands.
Costa and Woodward report that Pence rang up Quayle in late December to ask if there was any way he could give Trump want he wanted, according to the Washington Post:
Quayle was adamant, according to the authors. Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away, he said.
But Pence pressed him, the authors write, asking if there were any grounds to pause the certification because of ongoing legal challenges. Quayle was unmoved, and Pence ultimately agreed, according to the book.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/dan-quayle-talked-mike-pence-rejecting-trump-what-story-n1279406
So he knew then that TFG wanted him to do it.
We know Pence talked to Greg Jacob on 1/5 and Jacob told him to forget it:
A lawyer for former Vice President Mike Pence told him the day before the Capitol Riot that following former President Donald Trump's request to certify the election for him would eventually fail in court, according to a memo obtained by Politico.
https://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-pence-told-him-day-142757454.html
As for the gallows... My opinion is that they were for show only... See this pics here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216719811#post12
But yes, others 100% knew that Pence was not on board... See TFG's speech at the Ellipse on 1/6.