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fishwax

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99. that is horrible, to be sure

Thu Jun 16, 2022, 02:50 PM

Jun 2022

(I don't see what it has to do with my post, though. I never said nor implied that such deaths aren't sad or tragic or any such thing.)

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Car and Driver: The danger of keyless ignitions [View all] pnwmom Jun 2022 OP

A couple that lived near me were found dead in doc03 Jun 2022 #1

A friend of mine CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #3

Neighbors down the street from my in-laws accidentally left their keyless car on. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #14

Horrible. I thought that only happened moonscape Jun 2022 #29

Only On The Surface ProfessorGAC Jun 2022 #102

I am all for the warning systems but CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #2

Mine does if I leave it running and take the keys out. róisín_dubh Jun 2022 #8

Yep. CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #11

I guess new cars can be started with the remote from inside the house. Nice if it's snowing out ratchiweenie Jun 2022 #39

Also nice when it's 105 ReluctanceTango Jun 2022 #92

That's a very good point. MineralMan Jun 2022 #4

I disable the autostop every time I get in as well. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #7

I know why they added it. MineralMan Jun 2022 #15

My wife's car has lane monitoring and side traffic alerts. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #19

I rented a car once that had the side traffic alert. MineralMan Jun 2022 #23

In my wife's car the side traffic alert only beeps if the turn signal is on. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #25

That makes sense, except that more and more people MineralMan Jun 2022 #27

"I also always leave a gap between my vehicle and the one ahead of me..." Jedi Guy Jun 2022 #107

Learned that from my Dad in 1962. MineralMan Jun 2022 #108

Sounds like your dad did right by you. Jedi Guy Jun 2022 #117

He did, and I will. MineralMan Jun 2022 #118

I have a Subie too. I have never had the brakes engage like that. My hubby has and helpisontheway Jun 2022 #111

I thought delays was waiting on red light runners Captain Zero Jun 2022 #58

Probably some of all of the above. ShazzieB Jun 2022 #106

Both, most likely. MineralMan Jun 2022 #109

We disable that too. I don't like it either. n/t pnwmom Jun 2022 #62

It is easy to do Jerry2144 Jun 2022 #5

My wife's car which I drive regularly is keyless, and after several years I still hate it. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #6

Disagree. Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #10

I don't like the idea of just having a fob in my pocket all the time. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #13

Fair enough, we all have preferences... Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #18

The problem is that those of us who don't prefer it often don't have a choice pnwmom Jun 2022 #63

Like manual transmissions.... the market speaks. Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #81

Thing is, I really don't recall people clamoring for keyless ignition. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #86

I love it, and it was definitely on my "shopping list" Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #89

Also, if you leave the FOB in your pocket robbob Jun 2022 #16

Mine does not. Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #20

Yes inthewind21 Jun 2022 #24

Reread your post so I know how you lock and unlock your car. Dysfunctional Jun 2022 #32

My car I just need to put my hand on the door handle AZSkiffyGeek Jun 2022 #35

Thank you Dysfunctional Jun 2022 #37

You unlock the door by pulling the handle with your key fob on your person, and lock it by touching fishwax Jun 2022 #42

Thank you. Dysfunctional Jun 2022 #105

The fob has a short field RFID chip. Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #82

Keyless ignition is brilliant for me because I moonscape Jun 2022 #31

I just think if you don't even take out your fob... Tommy Carcetti Jun 2022 #51

My fob is on the same keyring as my house and office keys fishwax Jun 2022 #53

It lets the car know you're there. Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #83

My car beeps at you like crazy if it is unoccupied and running. Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #9

yeah this is kind of my point CrackityJones75 Jun 2022 #12

If you close the door and leave it running, my Honda does really fast beeps. sarcasmo Jun 2022 #33

If it "could" be solved, it should have been solved before they killed any people with these systems pnwmom Jun 2022 #64

With all due respect.... Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #75

Any automotive engineer should have realized that a car that could run silently pnwmom Jun 2022 #76

An IC engine isn't silent. Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #77

My husband is a PhD Engineer and he has always been concerned about the CO issue. pnwmom Jun 2022 #78

This danger is more to do with enclosed garages than keyless ignitions. dawg Jun 2022 #17

Not really. It's the combination. People don't unknowingly leave running cars with keys pnwmom Jun 2022 #65

No, but people with keyed ignitions do die this way. dawg Jun 2022 #68

Yes -- on purpose, usually. Not accidentally. nt pnwmom Jun 2022 #69

In order for inthewind21 Jun 2022 #21

Driving a keyless hybrid for 10 yrs RainCaster Jun 2022 #22

You have to be extremely distracted ecstatic Jun 2022 #26

I love the feature, and many others new cars have Johnny2X2X Jun 2022 #28

A basic battery operated carbon monoxide detector is very inexpensive. nt. Mariana Jun 2022 #30

This. So inexpensive they could be built into cars... CaptainTruth Jun 2022 #45

People should have one in the house anyway Mariana Jun 2022 #71

And it makes auto theft far easier too. Pobeka Jun 2022 #34

I'll take the old way, too. calimary Jun 2022 #50

Most cars can turn off keyless entry if.... Happy Hoosier Jun 2022 #84

How about a better reason is to add a Carbon monoxide detector in your house USALiberal Jun 2022 #36

The story at the link doesn't even mention that idea. nt. Mariana Jun 2022 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2022 #112

Whoops! Thanks! Fixed!!! USALiberal Jun 2022 #113

My car beeps if I leave the engine on and open the door to get out. The only way I could jalan48 Jun 2022 #40

When your fob battery goes dead in the middle of nowhere mainer Jun 2022 #41

my fob has a key insert to get in the door fishwax Jun 2022 #52

Didn't work for my daughter in law mainer Jun 2022 #85

Yeah, that's a rough situation to be in for sure fishwax Jun 2022 #94

I love my keyless ignition, especially when you have a couple bags of groceries Meadowoak Jun 2022 #43

A lot of folks don't realize CO goes through walls IronLionZion Jun 2022 #44

Add CO detectors to cars. If the engine is running & CO level gets too high... CaptainTruth Jun 2022 #46

What my 2021 Chevy does... Historic NY Jun 2022 #47

They auto shutoff now in Toyotas. herding cats Jun 2022 #48

There should be little CO Edited to remove the CO2 refence Old Crank Jun 2022 #49

CO is very different from CO2. Reread the OP again, because not knowing can be deadly. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2022 #59

Thanks for catching that. Old Crank Jun 2022 #93

They can put a switch in the passenger seat to turn off the airbags. sybylla Jun 2022 #54

My Prius is so quiet sometimes I Tree Lady Jun 2022 #55

Yes, very frightening. LymphocyteLover Jun 2022 #56

Keyless ignitions + hands free driving, no problem... nt Hotler Jun 2022 #57

I love my keyless truck Traildogbob Jun 2022 #60

I've also heard ... Xoan Jun 2022 #61

That would be much harder to do, for most people. nt pnwmom Jun 2022 #66

We traded in our two older cars on one new model Torchlight Jun 2022 #67

We had a Super Beetle, too -- a 71, I think. I learned to drive on it! pnwmom Jun 2022 #70

Now I'm kinda jealous. :) Torchlight Jun 2022 #80

No, I fouhd it much easier to drive stick on the Super Beetle pnwmom Jun 2022 #88

This article is three years old, and most manufacturers now have automatic shutoffs fishwax Jun 2022 #72

Did they recall all the vehicles that don't? More people drive used cars than new. n/t pnwmom Jun 2022 #73

I doubt a recall is the best tool for addressing this problem fishwax Jun 2022 #74

Why not? nt pnwmom Jun 2022 #79

I think it would have quickly diminishing returns beyond raising awareness fishwax Jun 2022 #97

I knew a family of 5 that were all poisoned by carbon monoxide in a different kind of accident, pnwmom Jun 2022 #98

that is horrible, to be sure fishwax Jun 2022 #99

You said: "We're not talking about a catastrophic failure that would affect you or other drivers on pnwmom Jun 2022 #100

exactly. And what about that sentence implies any lack of concern about the situation you describe? fishwax Jun 2022 #101

As I said, this failure in a garage could hurt multiple people, pnwmom Jun 2022 #103

I feel like you are mischaracterizing or misrepresenting my argument fishwax Jun 2022 #104

Oh for god's sake Brenda Jun 2022 #87

I disagree. The manufacturers should have spent $5 more per car to eliminate the problem. pnwmom Jun 2022 #90

Okay, that's a good cheap fix Brenda Jun 2022 #91

These cars are very quiet. But the manufacturers were resisting the tiny cost pnwmom Jun 2022 #95

Can't read, paywall Brenda Jun 2022 #96

My husband's hybrid is so quiet. You literally can't tell it is on. This is something to think about helpisontheway Jun 2022 #110

Put a CO detector in your house, if you don't already have one. Mariana Jun 2022 #114

Sounds like ForgedCrank Jun 2022 #115

I left a keyless car running once musette_sf Jun 2022 #116