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In reply to the discussion: Eureka! I now understand clearly why it has taken 17, plus, months to present these hearings. [View all]BumRushDaShow
(170,174 posts)22. I saw your earlier replies upthread
and what I posted was also to correct some of the misconceptions that "Democrats were doing nothing for a year and a half".
One of the purposes of Congress is "oversight" so "hearings" are to gather the details of potential problems and determine the needs for fixing those problems including via legislation.
And as an important side note - there was actually a 2nd Impeachment that happened as a result of January 6 that I think people sortof remember but then forget.
The Impeachment Resolution was submitted January 11, 2021 (5 days after Janaury 6) and was passed by the House on January 13, 2021. It was then engrossed and sent to the Senate on January 25, 2021.
H.Res.24 - Impeaching Donald John Trump, President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.
117th Congress] (2021-2022) | Get alerts
Resolution
Sponsor: Rep. Cicilline, David N. [D-RI-1] (Introduced 01/11/2021)
Committees: House - Judiciary
Latest Action: Senate - 02/13/2021 The Senate adjudges that Donald John Trump, former President of the United States, is not guilty as charged in the Article of Impeachment by Yea-Nay Vote. 57 - 43. Record Vote Number: 59. (All Actions)
Roll Call Votes: There have been 2 roll call votes
Tracker: This bill has the status Agreed to in House
117th Congress] (2021-2022) | Get alerts
Resolution
Sponsor: Rep. Cicilline, David N. [D-RI-1] (Introduced 01/11/2021)
Committees: House - Judiciary
Latest Action: Senate - 02/13/2021 The Senate adjudges that Donald John Trump, former President of the United States, is not guilty as charged in the Article of Impeachment by Yea-Nay Vote. 57 - 43. Record Vote Number: 59. (All Actions)
Roll Call Votes: There have been 2 roll call votes
Tracker: This bill has the status Agreed to in House
Received in Senate (01/25/2021)
117th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. RES. 24
IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
January 25, 2021
Received
RESOLUTION
Impeaching Donald John Trump, President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.
Resolved, That Donald John Trump, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors and that the following article of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:
Article of impeachment exhibited by the House of Representatives of the United States of America in the name of itself and of the people of the United States of America, against Donald John Trump, President of the United States of America, in maintenance and support of its impeachment against him for high crimes and misdemeanors.
ARTICLE I: INCITEMENT OF INSURRECTION
The Constitution provides that the House of Representatives shall have the sole Power of Impeachment and that the President shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. Further, section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution prohibits any person who has engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States from hold[ing] any office under the United States. In his conduct while President of the United Statesand in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executedDonald John Trump engaged in high Crimes and Misdemeanors by inciting violence against the Government of the United States, in that:
On January 6, 2021, pursuant to the 12th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, the Vice President of the United States, the House of Representatives, and the Senate met at the United States Capitol for a Joint Session of Congress to count the votes of the Electoral College. In the months preceding the Joint Session, President Trump repeatedly issued false statements asserting that the Presidential election results were the product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted by the American people or certified by State or Federal officials. Shortly before the Joint Session commenced, President Trump, addressed a crowd at the Ellipse in Washington, DC. There, he reiterated false claims that we won this election, and we won it by a landslide. He also willfully made statements that, in context, encouragedand foreseeably resulted inlawless action at the Capitol, such as: if you dont fight like hell youre not going to have a country anymore. Thus incited by President Trump, members of the crowd he had addressed, in an attempt to, among other objectives, interfere with the Joint Sessions solemn constitutional duty to certify the results of the 2020 Presidential election, unlawfully breached and vandalized the Capitol, injured and killed law enforcement personnel, menaced Members of Congress, the Vice President, and Congressional personnel, and engaged in other violent, deadly, destructive, and seditious acts.
President Trumps conduct on January 6, 2021, followed his prior efforts to subvert and obstruct the certification of the results of the 2020 Presidential election. Those prior efforts included a phone call on January 2, 2021, during which President Trump urged the secretary of state of Georgia, Brad Raffensperger, to find enough votes to overturn the Georgia Presidential election results and threatened Secretary Raffensperger if he failed to do so.
In all this, President Trump gravely endangered the security of the United States and its institutions of Government. He threatened the integrity of the democratic system, interfered with the peaceful transition of power, and imperiled a coequal branch of Government. He thereby betrayed his trust as President, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.
Wherefore, Donald John Trump, by such conduct, has demonstrated that he will remain a threat to national security, democracy, and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with self-governance and the rule of law. Donald John Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
Attest: cheryl l. johnson,
Speaker of the House of Representatives
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-resolution/24/text
The Senate trial began February 9, 2021 and concluded with an acquittal vote on February 13, 2021.
So some of the research from the above laid a foundation for the creation of that J6 Committee, that had to navigate the Kevin McCarthy landmines of putting the usual loon clowns like Gymsuit Jordan on the Committee, which would have made it a joke.
So after all that, I will just say that "the public" saw an "exposition of facts" literally days after the event via a 2nd Impeachment. I'll also note that the J6 Committee ALSO had a hearing a year ago, a couple weeks after they came into existence (July 27, 2021), which folks also forget (and even the Committee seems to forget it
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Eureka! I now understand clearly why it has taken 17, plus, months to present these hearings. [View all]
jaxexpat
Jun 2022
OP
Makes me wonder in how many ways will these bastards continue to "own the libs".
jaxexpat
Jun 2022
#2
These types are still in thrall to the money class - the evangists and the plutocrats.
erronis
Jun 2022
#18
I kept thinking of a (r)epuglicon slug. If a fly flew by, his tongue would be quick.
erronis
Jun 2022
#19
Republicans will never be stupid enough to let hearings like this happen again.
meadowlander
Jun 2022
#8
True. Reminescent of the Russian boycott of the UNSC resolution authorizing the Korean War.
Marcuse
Jun 2022
#10
"understand clearly why it has taken 17, plus, months" -The J6 Committe was formed on *July 1, 2021*
BumRushDaShow
Jun 2022
#9
Do you not see that these hearings were destined from the moment the insurrection failed?
jaxexpat
Jun 2022
#15
1,000 interviews and 140,000 documents, video footage, transcripts etc. couldn't HELP
ancianita
Jun 2022
#11
The Committee has done an amazing job. We can thank Nancy for refusing to let Jordon on it.
housecat
Jun 2022
#12
What I said every time I read a post or a comment complaining about how slow the investigation was
Martin68
Jun 2022
#13
Much is being made of the witnesses being Republican, but no Democrats were on the inside
bucolic_frolic
Jun 2022
#14
I expect that those Republicans were the exact people whose testimony was necessary.
jaxexpat
Jun 2022
#16