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certainot

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61. ignoring it is the biggest political mistake in history, for global warming action delay alone
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 02:29 PM
Jun 2022

and then there's all the hillary hate and for instance, weeks of unchallenged attacks on anita hill and christine blasey ford to get those shits on the supremes, etc.

the 2010 election was another good eg of the astounding stupidity, incompetence, and irresponsibility of ignoring rw radio. the new dem voters fell for the national rw buzz that obama considered himself a messiah who could bring everyone together but he couldn't close guantanamo, couldn't get us single payer, etc, so why vote. and a lot of naive purist idiots didn't so we lost congress. limbaugh led 1500 radio stations making sure no republicans could cooperate with obama/dems and at the same time sold that shit. only ignored rw radio, free for the GOP/ALEC/federalist society and endorsed by many of the universities a lot of non voters were going to, could do that.

the social media attacks, with russian help, on hillary, piggybacked years of rw radio repetition. i was seeing some of that coming from democrats/liberals on liberal blogs, repeating that same highly exaggerated crap, whether they were really bernie supporters or trolls.

All Hillary Basher's can celebrate today [View all] Eliot Rosewater Jun 2022 OP
I don't know about you, but she's more "exciting" than ever to me today. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #1
+1 spooky3 Jun 2022 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #57
+3. iluvtennis Jun 2022 #64
But, but...but her emails GoodRaisin Jun 2022 #74
+1 treestar Jun 2022 #135
Just wait a minute wryter2000 Jun 2022 #2
x1000 peggysue2 Jun 2022 #3
+++ JohnSJ Jun 2022 #4
This thread serves no constructive purpose. Wednesdays Jun 2022 #5
You're free inthewind21 Jun 2022 #6
Thank you Eliot Rosewater Jun 2022 #7
this right here. mopinko Jun 2022 #9
Hear, hear! LoisB Jun 2022 #11
+1 betsuni Jun 2022 #17
+1000, I've been waiting for the apology tour, as well. Nixie Jun 2022 #20
Amen JustAnotherGen Jun 2022 #34
This. Aroundabout23 Jun 2022 #47
Well said! mcar Jun 2022 #97
X 1000. Thank you. (nt) Paladin Jun 2022 #113
Yep, they will never apologize or admit what they did though Meowmee Jun 2022 #133
We're also free to comment on it. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2022 #148
It serves no constructive purpose to ignore that which contributed to what we have. NT Patton French Jun 2022 #56
The purpose reminds people. Lest we forget! nt Samrob Jun 2022 #63
It most certainly does. W_HAMILTON Jun 2022 #75
Yeah, it does.. it's called Cha Jun 2022 #82
Except perhaps remind those on the left that not supporting Hillary was monumentally stupid. honest.abe Jun 2022 #107
Control of the SCOTUS was on the ballot in 2016 as well as the fate of Roe v. Wade and gun control LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #10
Exactly right moniss Jun 2022 #15
This - JustAnotherGen Jun 2022 #36
Exactly. rogue emissary Jun 2022 #129
Hillary told us that. Michelle Obama told us that. Anyone who had been paying attention knew it! Samrob Jun 2022 #102
Yes. I frequently imagine what things might have been like MineralMan Jun 2022 #12
I have always wonder what the world would be like if SCOTUS hadn't APPOINTED Bush and Gore had won. usaf-vet Jun 2022 #32
Gore did win. SCOTUS was willingly Gaslighted into appointing Shrub. Ford_Prefect Jun 2022 #62
This so This RANDYWILDMAN Jun 2022 #71
The obvious conclusion to be drawn is that the current sate of affairs was bought and paid for Ford_Prefect Jun 2022 #72
Nope, this is a self inflicted wound. It happened twice - 2000,2016. And I still hear threats to Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #138
No, why? Why are Republicans only motivated by money and not OBVIOUSLY by ideology? betsuni Jun 2022 #140
20 years of hillary bashing on rw radio, ignored by the left, really worked great! certainot Jun 2022 #51
What do you mean "ignored by the left"? betsuni Jun 2022 #52
ignoring it is the biggest political mistake in history, for global warming action delay alone certainot Jun 2022 #61
In that alternate timeline... roscoeroscoe Jun 2022 #59
Don't threaten me with the comradebillyboy Jun 2022 #13
Russian spoiler. Stupid voters. housecat Jun 2022 #31
They have to wait for COMPLETE annihilation to enable their "revolution." Hortensis Jun 2022 #14
Ding ding ding - winner! JustAnotherGen Jun 2022 #38
And still do. Still push lies and Democratic failure openly elsewhere. Hortensis Jun 2022 #43
A lot of them just didn't want a female president. yardwork Jun 2022 #91
Yes. Misogyny among some on the left, not just right, was obvious. Hortensis Jun 2022 #98
+1 betsuni Jun 2022 #99
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2022 #105
Someone needs to explain how they saddled a generation with Nixie Jun 2022 #16
No shit, right! Eliot Rosewater Jun 2022 #23
Aiming anger to your left probably isn't a good tactic at this point. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2022 #111
Nice try, but we know how the "right" got into power and the "left" Nixie Jun 2022 #115
If that becomes the pervasive attitude of the mainstream Dem party Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2022 #117
You only need to look at reality. No need to keep browbeating Nixie Jun 2022 #119
If the Progressive Left Willto Jun 2022 #149
We did show up for Clinton. Better than Clinton voters did for Obama. Cuthbert Allgood Jun 2022 #150
"We"? Folks like Nina Turner didn't. She was Bernie Sanders' Nixie Jun 2022 #151
WOW! Willto Jun 2022 #153
That ship has sailed inthewind21 Jun 2022 #116
Unfortunately, a minority on the left are inimical to Democrats, though claiming Hortensis Jun 2022 #121
Those who refused to vote for Hillary are the issue and already we hear threats for 24. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #139
People must live with their choices Sympthsical Jun 2022 #18
No, WE have to live with their choices Eliot Rosewater Jun 2022 #24
We are not especially absolved of our own choices Sympthsical Jun 2022 #54
THIS Meowmee Jun 2022 #134
Amen to that!!! Peacetrain Jun 2022 #19
Who is Hillary Basher? Never heard of someone with that name. demigoddess Jun 2022 #21
Easy to find out... getagrip_already Jun 2022 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #60
Apparently, a Hillary brasher is someone who preferred a different Dem backed candidate, Magoo48 Jun 2022 #35
Lots of people bashed Hillary and then didn't vote for her. TwilightZone Jun 2022 #42
Some are still here and obvious if you know what to look for. nt DURHAM D Jun 2022 #50
+1 betsuni Jun 2022 #55
I was clued into the name of this group on another thread... Just A Box Of Rain Jun 2022 #70
Yep. yardwork Jun 2022 #92
She, like, got paid for a speech and Planned Parenthood is establishment, or something. betsuni Jun 2022 #22
And that was enough to just throw the whole country in the toilet Eliot Rosewater Jun 2022 #25
Don't forget that HRC was a warmonger! And she knew where the levers of power were! And and Hekate Jun 2022 #46
Oh yeah, how can a person be pretty much a warmongering corrupt Satan and dull at the same time? betsuni Jun 2022 #48
Lol, dull as in lacked both the thrill and certitude of the authoritarian leader Hortensis Jun 2022 #101
So long as someone voted for her, I have no complaint 867-5309. Jun 2022 #27
No, my issue is with those who could not stop bashing her Eliot Rosewater Jun 2022 #28
If someone didn't vote for her 867-5309. Jun 2022 #30
The "criticism" was that she was corrupt and evil. betsuni Jun 2022 #29
Did some think she was corrupt and evil and still voted for her? 867-5309. Jun 2022 #33
The ones who repeated Wall Street Wall Street Wall Street Wall Street corrupt corrupt betsuni Jun 2022 #45
During the primary or general? 867-5309. Jun 2022 #67
Was not legitimate and it's still a generic attack of Democrats. betsuni Jun 2022 #69
The Republican party bashed Hillary for 30+, and it worked out and they are getting what they wanted quakerboy Jun 2022 #37
Maybe it's about time to revisit the French Revolution. Mr. Evil Jun 2022 #39
Butheremails! edhopper Jun 2022 #40
My take on bashing. usonian Jun 2022 #41
Actually, the REAL problem ... Martin Eden Jun 2022 #44
Over 100 million potential voters either don't want to, don't care to, or cannot Justice matters. Jun 2022 #49
Talk about rehashing the 2016 election. xocetaceans Jun 2022 #53
Amen. Wednesdays Jun 2022 #77
nonsense Skittles Jun 2022 #81
Voting does absolutely matter. However.... xocetaceans Jun 2022 #83
yes, many things did, and some were more senseless than others Skittles Jun 2022 #84
I agree with you totally on that. xocetaceans Jun 2022 #85
Oh ffs, yeah it's those who want to keep 2016 from happening again that are toxic. MrsCoffee Jun 2022 #88
+1 betsuni Jun 2022 #89
"toxicity of over-bearing self-righteousness". Jesus! Does this Nixie Jun 2022 #114
LOL! So I guess we know where you stand. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #136
LOL. xocetaceans Jun 2022 #143
The OP is not creating disunity. The disunity is already here. yardwork Jun 2022 #93
Voters selected Clinton as the candidate. betsuni Jun 2022 #95
OP is not talking about the 2016 primary mcar Jun 2022 #100
Care to explain then what it is? Emile Jun 2022 #104
2016 general mcar Jun 2022 #127
I don't believe Torchlight Jun 2022 #120
I suspect most on here voted for Clinton in 2016. True, she was not my candidate of PatrickforB Jun 2022 #58
Who doesn't know what Democrats stand for? betsuni Jun 2022 #65
Democrats aren't monolithic 867-5309. Jun 2022 #66
Everybody knows what Democrats stand for. betsuni Jun 2022 #68
True, but if we have thousands of people all focused on one or two issues, we dilute PatrickforB Jun 2022 #78
In the context of Hillary losing the election 867-5309. Jun 2022 #86
Yeah, given the absolute outrage of the Supreme Court overturning Roe today, PatrickforB Jun 2022 #122
The 4 in 10 independent voters, and the 3 in 10 Republican voters. PatrickforB Jun 2022 #73
Given how many noses are out of joint due to the OP? kcr Jun 2022 #79
I agree with you that the DNC needs much better messaging. yardwork Jun 2022 #94
Well, given today's utter outrage against all women, we now have a HUGE talking point to PatrickforB Jun 2022 #123
Lock them up Lock them all up! ArnoldLayne Jun 2022 #76
yup Skittles Jun 2022 #80
+1 betsuni Jun 2022 #87
Useful idiots Hav Jun 2022 #90
Yeah, I guess deriding us as mcar Jun 2022 #96
Remember the Trash that were Booing and Heckling her during her Speech at the Convention ? JI7 Jun 2022 #103
Kick dalton99a Jun 2022 #106
Same sex marriage and contraception are next LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #108
The thing that bugs me the most is that they still think they are smarter than the rest of us. honest.abe Jun 2022 #109
WE just dont understand, we support mainstream Democrats and they are Eliot Rosewater Jun 2022 #124
Exactly, and just upthread, one is still blaming this on "corporate Nixie Jun 2022 #128
Hillary warned us LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #110
+1 dalton99a Jun 2022 #112
Exactly Jason1961 Jun 2022 #118
I blame Trump! eom Emile Jun 2022 #125
I include Eddie Glaude in this group LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2022 #126
Hillary was savaged here during the 2008 primary Kaleva Jun 2022 #130
And Nancy Pelosi is by the same people yet you cant really get them to tell you why. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2022 #131
Yes, there is a faction that doesn't like Speaker Pelosi Kaleva Jun 2022 #132
Yes. Just have to Google insults like "Hillarian" betsuni Jun 2022 #137
Not true...it was far worse in the 2016 General for Hillary and at that point the primary Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #141
+1 betsuni Jun 2022 #142
I'll quote comments about Hillary made in 2008 primary Kaleva Jun 2022 #147
I blame one person, he knew exactly what he was doing. betsuni Jun 2022 #144
Sigh...a better future is coming I guess Hav Jun 2022 #145
Exactly. betsuni Jun 2022 #146
+1 MrsCoffee Jun 2022 #152
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