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ancianita

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69. It could happen. But. After all this work by Congress, FBI & DOJ, to let these pardons
Thu Jun 23, 2022, 06:49 PM
Jun 2022

stand would be a failure of Rule of Law they just couldn't abide by. Too much loss, harm and damage has been done to the functioning of the federal and state governments to let any secret pardons go through after the worst and largest seditious conspiracy plot in U.S. history has been proven through years of investigation.

If they let secret pardons stand in this dark historical time, I see two things happening.

First, it would embolden all the trumpcult voters, militias and half-assed attorneys to trumpet that they're the real good guys, go with this playbook over again, only with DeSantis, the smarter version of trump, with corporate backers to establish minority corporate rule.
Second, many of the 81 million Democratic voters would be watching their backs, maybe looking to either hide or leave the country, given both the recent Miranda ruling by the SCOTUS, and the tendency of right winger LEO's to let mass murders happen.

Bottom line. I just don't see secret pardons saving the day for the bad guys.

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Gaetz, Gohmert, Greene, Brooks, who else wanted a pardon? Lars39 Jun 2022 #1
The dotard is transactional. A pardon can be bought for a nominal fee. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 #4
a la Ray Blanton..and that didn't end well Lars39 Jun 2022 #28
Biggs nt spooky3 Jun 2022 #6
Scott Perry, and then Marjorie Taylor Greene asked for one from Philbin Mersky Jun 2022 #13
Jordan talked about them, but didn't ask for one from Cassidy Hutchinson Mersky Jun 2022 #17
All the congresspeople asking for pardons... AngryOldDem Jun 2022 #2
Focusing on Matt Gaetz asking for a pardon BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #3
Now why would Gaetz ask for such a broad pardon, hmm? nt crickets Jun 2022 #14
I expected to hear Laudermilk's name. wnylib Jun 2022 #70
Some of them arrogantly believe BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #72
Kinzinger finished his questions BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #5
Pardons for all of Trump's staff?! Good grief Lars39 Jun 2022 #7
Kinzinger now giving his closing statement BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #8
Kinzinger closing remarks Lars39 Jun 2022 #9
Agree--and their staff have done a great job with the content prep nt spooky3 Jun 2022 #11
I can't imagine the amount of work all this has taken Lars39 Jun 2022 #23
Agreed. Another day of sledgehammer testimony. nt crickets Jun 2022 #18
He did great! GumboYaYa Jun 2022 #27
Side note on the closing remarks. wnylib Jun 2022 #71
Trump talked about a blanket Pardon for his family? PA_jen Jun 2022 #10
Kind of everybody blogslug Jun 2022 #22
I don't remember them resigning before 1/20/20 Wednesdays Jun 2022 #29
Not off the top of my head blogslug Jun 2022 #37
"Whack job conspiracy theories" Kinzinger. livetohike Jun 2022 #12
Pardons asked for after Jan 6 ancianita Jun 2022 #15
Kinzinger describing the CTs that were being flung around BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #16
"Very fragile ego." AngryOldDem Jun 2022 #19
Kinzinger: "Clark plead the 5th over 125 times" BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #20
Clark plead the 5th 500 times! livetohike Jun 2022 #21
Fucking assholes asking for pardons. Novara Jun 2022 #24
Kinzinger done and Liz Cheney giving her closing remarks BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #25
Kinzinger did a great job today. dalton99a Jun 2022 #26
I like him even though he is a Republican. sinkingfeeling Jun 2022 #31
Just looked him up. 3catwoman3 Jun 2022 #60
He grew up here in Bloomington, IL. sinkingfeeling Jun 2022 #61
" ... in the hearings ahead..." - plural Novara Jun 2022 #30
Cheney to the witnesses: "Your actions should have a longer term impact." ancianita Jun 2022 #32
That's gonna leave a mark. SheltieLover Jun 2022 #52
Pretty sure that she's saying it for the record. ancianita Jun 2022 #56
No doubt! But I wonder what will happen if qpukes are indi yed SheltieLover Jun 2022 #58
There's the pardon list you can look up. From what I see, no congress person got one. ancianita Jun 2022 #63
Thx, but what about secret pardons? SheltieLover Jun 2022 #64
We'll only know if he issued secret pardons when he's actually charged by the DOJ. ancianita Jun 2022 #67
Thx! SheltieLover Jun 2022 #68
It could happen. But. After all this work by Congress, FBI & DOJ, to let these pardons ancianita Jun 2022 #69
Cheney imploring the RW loons that their trust was abused BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #33
I thought it was good that she addressed crickets Jun 2022 #43
Agree nt spooky3 Jun 2022 #44
The Q loons and MAGats won't be convinced BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #59
Thompson giving his closing remarks BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #34
He's not mincing words at all. Arkansas Granny Jun 2022 #38
So who asked Jared directly for a pardon, bypassing Hutchison,etc? Lars39 Jun 2022 #35
I love hearing Bennie Thompson say, "Donald Trump lost" Hela Jun 2022 #36
Thompson - "Backup plan on January 6 - 'A mob and vile threats'" BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #39
In service of Donald Trump malaise Jun 2022 #40
He's great! livetohike Jun 2022 #42
****COMMITTEE NOW ADJOURNED FOR THE DAY**** BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #41
Thanks again! Great job with the threads today. n/t livetohike Jun 2022 #45
I have been on the edge of my seat. The testimony today has been the most damning. Arkansas Granny Jun 2022 #49
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR PLAY-BY-PLAY COMMENTARY! BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #46
Ty for the thread! SheltieLover Jun 2022 #54
We all thank you, BRDS! ancianita Jun 2022 #47
Clark is "completely incompetent" Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2022 #48
He's going to prison malaise Jun 2022 #51
Thanks for the threads. sinkingfeeling Jun 2022 #50
Thanks for the threads, BRDS! crickets Jun 2022 #53
Thanks again, BRDS . electric_blue68 Jun 2022 #55
Great anchoring again, BRDS! Mersky Jun 2022 #57
X100 FalloutShelter Jun 2022 #62
Watching the panel on CNN afterwards. tanyev Jun 2022 #65
I'm actually watching MSNBC BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #66
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