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dameatball

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73. Exactly. My adult children and grandchildren have (and are) growing up in this world/nation we

Sat Jun 25, 2022, 03:31 PM

Jun 2022

have left them. I can't just leave them here because I think things are f'd up. Honestly, if the USA somehow disintegrates or goes under the repercussions will be felt around the world for a long, long time. I can't think of a worse time in history for like minded people to give up and leave. Hell, Randi Rhodes was even talking about getting out yesterday on Free Speech TV. That stuff is the last thing we need.

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Starting the process for citizenship in another country [View all] cherish44 Jun 2022 OP

Congratulations ! OnDoutside Jun 2022 #1

Unfortunately unless you renounce your US citizenship you will have to do US tax returns BSdetect Jun 2022 #2

No plans to renounce US citizenship at this time cherish44 Jun 2022 #4

So? If you make under $90,000 USD róisín_dubh Jun 2022 #14

If you make under $90k where? In the USA? In Ireland? Sorry, bit unsure what you meant. BSdetect Jun 2022 #22

Up to about 90K foreign income is exempt for US tax purposes JCMach1 Jun 2022 #70

Exactly this. I worded it badly nt róisín_dubh Jun 2022 #100

For 2022 earned income it's $112K, not 90K Celerity Jun 2022 #105

It must have gone up... 2012 was my last expat tax form JCMach1 Jun 2022 #107

it goes up every year Celerity Jun 2022 #118

That only helps for foreign income DFW Jun 2022 #121

auslndische Einknfte Celerity Jun 2022 #138

That is in an ideal situation, and in print only. Reality, sadly, does not follow those guidelines DFW Jun 2022 #141

Irish citizenship requires only 1 grandparent TxGuitar Jun 2022 #92

If you make $90K in whatever foreign country. róisín_dubh Jun 2022 #99

It is $112K for 2022 foreign income, not 90K Celerity Jun 2022 #104

it was my understanding that if i get my irish passport, my kids can apply. mopinko Jun 2022 #25

I have dual citizenship. My grandmother was born in Ireland. Native Jun 2022 #38

Irish passports are highly desirable. I'm not sure when your relative was born but there was a fire gldstwmn Jun 2022 #59

I'm considering a third generation... róisín_dubh Jun 2022 #101

well, best of luck. let me know how it goes. mopinko Jun 2022 #116

That $90K figure is old for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion. For 2022 income it's $112K Celerity Jun 2022 #103

Before you make any jump. Old Crank Jun 2022 #69

It's not so horrible if your income is in in another country DFW Jun 2022 #127

Wish I could do the same. shrike3 Jun 2022 #3

Looking into Canada but I'm guaranteed Luxembourgian citizenship through my bloodline :) cherish44 Jun 2022 #6

You are fortunate. All the best. shrike3 Jun 2022 #7

Ireland is the same. Just prove a bloodline no matter how far back and you're good to go PortTack Jun 2022 #29

Can't go back any further than grandparents. Native Jun 2022 #39

Actually I have it from an Irish citizen that you can. PortTack Jun 2022 #56

I'm an Irish citizen. I went thru the process 8 years ago. Native Jun 2022 #88

They gave you incorrect information, it is grandparents only, with 2 VERY narrow exceptions for Celerity Jun 2022 #128

only to grandparents treestar Jun 2022 #77

My kids gave me so much crap about that. Native Jun 2022 #90

I didn't give her too much crap treestar Jun 2022 #135

Not true TxGuitar Jun 2022 #93

Congrats - your lucky walkingman Jun 2022 #5

If you don't feel freedom and democracy are worth staying and fighting for, GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #8

A white flag with a big W on it cherish44 Jun 2022 #9

Nope. Just a plain white one. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #10

I agree with you. More and more Democrats and many DUers are planning to leave. panader0 Jun 2022 #12

Yep, we're better off without the ones who want to run away. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #20

The ones who leave can hardly be considered "patriots". panader0 Jun 2022 #34

Oh no! BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #46

There aren't "so many," though. At our age, we know a fair number Hortensis Jun 2022 #42

+1 treestar Jun 2022 #76

There are valid reasons. The environment here is going to get really hateful if other privacy laws PortTack Jun 2022 #30

If you are planning to go live in another country, I would advise to carefully check the laws panader0 Jun 2022 #33

And that's fine. Others who choose to leave should be left to do so and not bashed for doing so. PortTack Jun 2022 #58

+1 treestar Jun 2022 #78

Would you have looked on the Germans who emigrated in 1930 as weaklings? LudwigPastorius Jun 2022 #44

And many like me don't have that option treestar Jun 2022 #75

I'm too old for this cherish44 Jun 2022 #95

This Country Isn't Going To Fight For Me Or My Beliefs SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #16

Don't let the door hit you... GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #18

I Respect The Germans Who Left Germany In The Mid-1930's SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #21

And, yet you are prepared to walk away from the "Shithole" yourself, GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #24

I'm Not Alone SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #27

+1 BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #50

There's nothing effective that you are doing to "fight for" America meadowlander Jun 2022 #109

that was a lot worse treestar Jun 2022 #79

I imagine Lee Greenwood blaring as this was typed. BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #47

then the irony is doing it treestar Jun 2022 #83

+100 Celerity Jun 2022 #137

As an added bonus, you'll get healthcare as a basic right, area51 Jun 2022 #37

It won't happen, nor will actual gun laws that matter BannonsLiver Jun 2022 #48

The Country is NOT going to fight for you. YOU fight for Democracy, Freedom, and the Constitution. Tommymac Jun 2022 #52

Time for a little [redacted]? ck4829 Jun 2022 #123

I think it's a bit more complicated than that. Native Jun 2022 #40

You go down with the ship 48656c6c6f20 Jun 2022 #61

Buh bye. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #65

It's not for you to decide. You don't know what people's situations are. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #66

Y'all are free to leave. GoCubsGo Jun 2022 #67

It's a big world with a lot of nice places to live Mysterian Jun 2022 #115

state an opinion, get one back treestar Jun 2022 #84

"Don't let the door hit you" is not elevating the discussion in any way. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #98

Alright, fight for them. No more "*Sigh* we don't have the votes" ck4829 Jun 2022 #122

It's my white flag and I'm putting a W on it. My flag my choice. cherish44 Jun 2022 #11

I can afford to go. I refuse to. Simple. dameatball Jun 2022 #13

Us too. Our DIL's a Danish citizen and could still take us all there, Hortensis Jun 2022 #43

Exactly. My adult children and grandchildren have (and are) growing up in this world/nation we dameatball Jun 2022 #73

"I can't think of a worse time in history...to give up and leave." Hortensis Jun 2022 #74

also it would get worse treestar Jun 2022 #82

:) Yes, it sure would be. MAGAs would no doubt love the idea of liberals fleeing, Hortensis Jun 2022 #131

We didn't move to Costa Rica because of politics LakeArenal Jun 2022 #15

I Keep Hearing About Costa Rica, So Will Have To Include That On My List Of Options SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #17

Ironically, it's a Catholic country. State Religion even. LakeArenal Jun 2022 #19

So, Only In Cases When It Poses A Danger? SoCalDavidS Jun 2022 #23

You aren't seeing it as a Catholic Country. LakeArenal Jun 2022 #26

Good on you LakeArenal 😉😉😉😉 PortTack Jun 2022 #31

Gracias. LakeArenal Jun 2022 #36

I may PM you for information at some point if it's OK with you. Crunchy Frog Jun 2022 #91

Please do. More than one has already. LakeArenal Jun 2022 #133

ive considered costa rica moonshinegnomie Jun 2022 #106

Panama has some advantages over CR LakeArenal Jun 2022 #134

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My wife is looking at houses in Spain MurrayDelph Jun 2022 #32

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jun 2022 #35

ancestors not descendants eShirl Jun 2022 #41

ooops yes it's ancestor...more of a typo than not knowing the correct term.... cherish44 Jun 2022 #55

You picked the right ancestors Retrograde Jun 2022 #45

You're a Californian, right? shanti Jun 2022 #86

Really? My great grandfather was born there nini Jun 2022 #49

You would definitely qualify cherish44 Jun 2022 #60

you have no idea how happy I am to learn this nini Jun 2022 #62

Luxembourg is a small country so we probably really are cousins! :) cherish44 Jun 2022 #68

Definitely :D nini Jun 2022 #71

Unless you're offering the rest of us a lifeline ecstatic Jun 2022 #51

If there is any way for me to be able to sponsor anyone wanting to come over cherish44 Jun 2022 #57

I immigrated to Canada in 2012. Best decision I ever made, for so many reasons. Jedi Guy Jun 2022 #53

I can do the same with Ireland but then I ask myself what the hell would I do there? gldstwmn Jun 2022 #54

My sister and cousin both got their dual citizenships during Trump's presidency cherish44 Jun 2022 #64

If they leave the country, expats should just drop their opinions of the US at the border. FreepFryer Jun 2022 #63

Nope. I'll still have US citizenship and will chirp all I want cherish44 Jun 2022 #94

Good luck but you will find right wing reactionaries in any country to which you flee. Smh. (Nt) FreepFryer Jun 2022 #97

So you want fewer people voting for Democrats... meadowlander Jun 2022 #110

That makes zero sense. (Nt) FreepFryer Jun 2022 #112

This may shock you Mariana Jun 2022 #113

I'm well aware! Does nothing to fix the patent illogic of their prior statement - Thanks tho! n FreepFryer Jun 2022 #124

The "love it or leave it" crowd was never very good at nuances. DFW Jun 2022 #126

Guess we disagree on the "nuff said" moment. It's when they walk away from their countrymen. (Nt) FreepFryer Jun 2022 #130

And to repeat DFW Jun 2022 #132

Awesome. Did you leave for the same reasons the Op did? Because that's the kind of expat FreepFryer Jun 2022 #136

I left for work and for my wife DFW Jun 2022 #139

You keep making all kinds of statements in response to things I didn't say or ask FreepFryer Jun 2022 #140

I am already considered sort of an unofficial ambassador anyway DFW Jun 2022 #143

During the plague Old Crank Jun 2022 #72

German permanent residence is a crap shoot DFW Jun 2022 #119

I hear you Old Crank Jun 2022 #142

why, if you are in a blue treestar Jun 2022 #80

Why bother to post this? I really don't get it...doom and gloom. Europe has one of the Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #81

Sticking around in the Pacific Bloc here, the Blue Wall, California Central Coast area... Hekate Jun 2022 #85

Yup shanti Jun 2022 #87

We would move to CA TxGuitar Jun 2022 #96

I would if I could budkin Jun 2022 #89

Come to Australia! Violet_Crumble Jun 2022 #102

I can just take my wife and son's Kenyan citizenship... If they kill voting rights and JCMach1 Jun 2022 #108

Well if you dislike it here so much you should leave Raine Jun 2022 #111

According to a guy I talked to recently, Luxembourg is crazy expensive to live in. However... GoneOffShore Jun 2022 #114

In the abstract, dual citizenship with an EU country would be cool Shrek Jun 2022 #117

Travel within Europe is already hassle-free DFW Jun 2022 #120

I'm too old but I think you're wise. mountain grammy Jun 2022 #125

EU citizenship doesn't necessarily mean you have to give up your US citizenship DFW Jun 2022 #129