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Roisin Ni Fiachra

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104. If they testify under oath, they become fair game for a lot of questions they won't want to

Wed Jun 29, 2022, 08:02 AM

Jun 2022

answer.

Pleading the 5th on anything, after denying what Cassidy Hutchinson reported she heard, will immediately shatter their credibility.

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Peter Alexander of NBC is reporting both the limo driver and tRump's Security Chief [View all] Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 OP

She said she was "told" about that. sinkingfeeling Jun 2022 #1

Thats what makes it hearsay. If this were a court of law, Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #21

Well, Alexander only reports that a "reliable source" told him the gents denied the incident. nt Samrob Jun 2022 #101

Reported also by David Muir on ABC dweller Jun 2022 #2

There are several vehicles... harumph Jun 2022 #3

Get Engle to testify harumph Jun 2022 #4

He is the Security Chief that Alexander says is willing to state Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #22

Hutchinson said it was Ornato that told her. GoodRaisin Jun 2022 #41

Could Be Admitted Under Several Exceptions to Hearsay Rule Depending on the Facts Stallion Jun 2022 #47

Also Perhaps Excited Utterance Exception (again depending on Facts) Stallion Jun 2022 #53

Hutchinson said it was ORNATO who told her about Engle. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #50

Yeah, saw that. I got the two guys in the room mixed up. They need to GoodRaisin Jun 2022 #76

Why do they refer to him as the 'limo driver' and not Secret Service Agent? pecosbob Jun 2022 #5

Right? The guy that drives the car is way more than a limo driver. gldstwmn Jun 2022 #73

She was clear in differentiating what she witnessed Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2022 #6

Maybe she was a plant TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #7

Lie under oath? Mme. Defarge Jun 2022 #15

She's not lying.. She says she was TOLD, not that she had witnessed Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #26

If she was told these things on 1/6 Mme. Defarge Jun 2022 #32

I'm not suggesting anything. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #34

I couldn't because the J6 committee isn't that flat out stupid. JoanofArgh Jun 2022 #52

Really? mcar Jun 2022 #57

A fresh new conspiracy theory is always appreciated. brooklynite Jun 2022 #71

not really a big deal from the standpoint that Garland would NEVER allow any of those statements Takket Jun 2022 #8

But to a certain extent.... TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #11

...which is not a court of law. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #29

So what is your point? TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #42

Don't put words in my mouth. I said no such thing. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #44

She heard the Pence comment... OneGrassRoot Jun 2022 #9

Takes away a potential assault charge against tRump. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #31

lol OneGrassRoot Jun 2022 #46

Every little bit helps. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #56

True! n/t OneGrassRoot Jun 2022 #99

My first reaction to the story was that there is no way ... Kingofalldems Jun 2022 #10

Thats what I thought too TheRealNorth Jun 2022 #14

He would if he thought they were going to be mercuryblues Jun 2022 #20

Hmm... Mike Nelson Jun 2022 #12

Well they didn't want to testify . .... Lovie777 Jun 2022 #13

Must have been Jared or Ivanka who threw a sandwich at the wall. milestogo Jun 2022 #16

Why would we necessarily believe the secret service? crazylikafox Jun 2022 #17

Yep n/t Just_Vote_Dem Jun 2022 #25

Do you really think the committee members are so stupid they didn't corroborate her testimony? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2022 #18

Yep . . .... Lovie777 Jun 2022 #23

They would have to be blithering idiots not to have corroborated her testimony before offering it DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2022 #27

We shall see what they say when they are under oath? kentuck Jun 2022 #19

if they want to testify under oath, fine. Tetrachloride Jun 2022 #24

Like they would never lie to protect that traitorous freak BlueIdaho Jun 2022 #28

Maybe that's why Cheney ended today with evidence of witness intimidation. yardwork Jun 2022 #30

Here is the actual tweet from Peter Alexander........ riversedge Jun 2022 #33

Jennifer Rubin.............this is weird............... riversedge Jun 2022 #36

Remember how all these assholes are denying things and then later J6 has the video? librechik Jun 2022 #108

Thanks - hadn't seen that. Just saw him on air. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #37

So... Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #39

Ok. Then have them do it. Scrivener7 Jun 2022 #45

He has since tweeted this: kcr Jun 2022 #97

I'm betting ten bucks neither one would testify to that under oath. Torchlight Jun 2022 #35

HE WASN'T IN THE LIMO Nevilledog Jun 2022 #38

Suburban Limo. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #40

Big difference. There was not an extra row of seats. Nevilledog Jun 2022 #48

There have been numerous accounts of the story now, and the vehicle Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #59

There's a video ffs Nevilledog Jun 2022 #63

To me, that shows a large car. Beyond that, I couldn't tell you Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #65

That's trump in the second row, rider's side. panader0 Jun 2022 #69

Fine, but that still doesn't tell me what kind of car it is by sight. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #72

It's painfully obvious to anyone with even a passing knowledge that it's a 4-door SUV Roland99 Jun 2022 #103

Well, of course, but that SAME "4-door SUV" has been called Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #105

1) "The Beast" is an actual limo. A stretched car. 2) the video CLEARLY shows an SUV. NOT a car. Roland99 Jun 2022 #110

Give it a rest. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #111

Rachel going over this now with WaPo's Carol Leonnig BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #78

I never said he was in The Beast. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #81

Am not attacking you! BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #83

Thanks! After 3 hours of fending off a whole bunch of critique, Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #86

Well I know my brain is fried! BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #88

Yowza! Time to wind down. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #90

Yeah I gotta get in the bed BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #92

Now imagine how "45" feels right now! Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #93

Well he did get in the news cycle BumRushDaShow Jun 2022 #94

The beast... 2naSalit Jun 2022 #98

"You can see that" only if you know those are features of a Suburban. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #107

Oh well. 2naSalit Jun 2022 #112

Well, that would make it a bit more logistically believable that he reached Mr.Bill Jun 2022 #43

Yes, but.... H2O Man Jun 2022 #106

Trump probably had that driver on the phone as soon as Hutchinson brought it up JoanofArgh Jun 2022 #49

Some should carefully consider before perjuring themselves...someone else might tell the truth. Demsrule86 Jun 2022 #51

I wonder who is his secret service now? Tree Lady Jun 2022 #54

I'll wait till their testimony mcar Jun 2022 #55

Yep, totally. JoanofArgh Jun 2022 #58

THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Jun 2022 #60

Republicans are "Dan Rathering" her over this Generic Brad Jun 2022 #61

So edhopper Jun 2022 #62

Gee, maybe the hard R's at the SS made the claim that it didn't happen. What makes anyone think... machoneman Jun 2022 #64

Yeah that came from SS but not from their mouths Bev54 Jun 2022 #66

She may not have seen spanky throw the plate, panader0 Jun 2022 #67

Thus an assumption, which is fine before the Committee, Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #68

See the Word "Usually" in Your Definition-that Refers to 20+ Exceptions to the Hearsay Rule Stallion Jun 2022 #70

Out of character mauserk98 Jun 2022 #74

Well, we don't know that for sure. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #77

I think the most damning thing is Trump knew his Emile Jun 2022 #75

This is so unimportant, just like the ketchup on the wall tishaLA Jun 2022 #79

And yet you took the time to comment. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #80

Yes I took the time to comment because tishaLA Jun 2022 #82

I find a direct denial by the parties specified, countering a key witness' Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #84

It does vary because the detail is umimportant. tishaLA Jun 2022 #85

Your choice. Have a nice night. Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #87

SQUIREL! tishaLA Jun 2022 #89

?? Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #91

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2022 #96

YEP !! uponit7771 Jun 2022 #95

The people involved - everyone in the car with Trump - should testify under oath. Vinca Jun 2022 #100

She said she personally helped clean ketchup off the dining room wall and saw broken porcelain on allegorical oracle Jun 2022 #102

"CNN now reporting the agents are willing to testify under oath the SUV incident never happened." Totally Tunsie Jun 2022 #109

If they testify under oath, they become fair game for a lot of questions they won't want to Roisin Ni Fiachra Jun 2022 #104