Another Conversation Ornato Says Never Happened [View all]

[Me.]

“Pence told Giebels: "I'm not getting in the car, Tim."

"I trust you, Tim, but you're not driving the car. If I get in that vehicle, you guys are taking off. I'm not getting in the car," he said.
The Pences went to a secure underground area to wait out the riot. At the White House, senior official Keith Kellogg reportedly discussed Pence with Tony Ornato, who "oversaw Secret Service movements."

Ornato told Kellogg that Pence's security detail was planning to move him to Joint Base Andrews but Kellogg told Ornato to leave Pence where he was because Pence was determined to stay and finish the job.

Through a spokesperson, Ornato told the book's authors that this conversation did not take place.”

https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-refused-car-secret-service-capitol-riot-book-1610326


THe initial story was in the Leoning/Rucker book.

So who's the liar?

And I'd like to know the name of the agent who was driving the car they wanted Pence to get into.