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70. Not true,

Reply to DavidDvorkin (Reply #61)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 10:01 PM

Jul 2022

the best ones are the ones that know when to get the fuck out of Dodge.

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Some may disagree, but it is my strong opinion that if you cannot tag your deer using a bolt action [View all] Atticus Jul 2022 OP

My father, five uncles and all my cousins were able to do so. hlthe2b Jul 2022 #1

If you use an AR-15, is there anything left besides Ocelot II Jul 2022 #2

The AR15 ammunition isn't any more powerful than that of standard rifles. Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #11

Nope not just that Bev54 Jul 2022 #14

From a handgun, yes. Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #17

Well, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #19

It's more than that; it's the velocity, which causes far more tissue damage. Ocelot II Jul 2022 #21

Compared to a handgun NickB79 Jul 2022 #30

FYI a ar15 round has about 1100 fts of energy thatdemguy Jul 2022 #41

Not really Lurker Deluxe Jul 2022 #46

You are wrong thatdemguy Jul 2022 #51

And ... Lurker Deluxe Jul 2022 #52

You are correct. It's a common misconception that the AR-15's round is bad bc it's "too powerful" Oneironaut Jul 2022 #108

see the links below thatdemguy Jul 2022 #109

That's true of any rifle round Zeitghost Jul 2022 #76

So it's really not a good deer rifle unless you shoot off a bunch of rounds, Ocelot II Jul 2022 #77

Well.... Happy Hoosier Jul 2022 #79

What there's usually left... jmowreader Jul 2022 #75

Laws on deer are by states, multigraincracker Jul 2022 #3

IMO, in any case, no one should be hunting. DavidDvorkin Jul 2022 #4

And why would that be? nt MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #13

Why not? WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #15

Healthy ecosystems require predators. shrike3 Jul 2022 #37

Predators don't take the best, as hunters do DavidDvorkin Jul 2022 #60

Not all do. multigraincracker Jul 2022 #65

Then bring back predators. You willing? shrike3 Jul 2022 #84

Hunting is far more ethical than buying meat at the grocery store. PTWB Jul 2022 #74

The best shot I know sometimes uses an AR-15 to hunt deer. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #5

And, this means----what? nt Atticus Jul 2022 #6

That he uses one shot to kill. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #12

So, he doesn't need an AR-15 to hunt deer. nt Atticus Jul 2022 #18

Why not? WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #22

Why? nt Atticus Jul 2022 #24

Wouldn't a single action do just as well? shrike3 Jul 2022 #85

That he's a testosterone poisoned idiot localroger Jul 2022 #47

But he doesn't spray semiauto. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #62

Game wardens are the king of the forest Lurker Deluxe Jul 2022 #66

I don't understand those who think that hunting with a semi auto rifle MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #69

Fine. But clips of 5-10 max. TigressDem Jul 2022 #20

Nobody hunts with 100 round magazines. NT Happy Hoosier Jul 2022 #80

I think the point many are trying to make here is this: shrike3 Jul 2022 #86

I support banning them... Happy Hoosier Jul 2022 #88

Cool. That's reasonable. shrike3 Jul 2022 #89

Except idiot kids hunting people. So they aren't needed. TigressDem Jul 2022 #110

Most if not all states limit 5 rounds. DiamondShark Jul 2022 #106

My grandfather, father, and brothers did it all their lives. onecaliberal Jul 2022 #7

My dad shot many deer with a bolt action rifle. I have shot 4 with a pump action shotgun doc03 Jul 2022 #8

Indeed. Triloon Jul 2022 #9

To hunt deer in Ohio you are limited to 3 rounds but to hunt humans doc03 Jul 2022 #16

Same in Florida. nt Phoenix61 Jul 2022 #31

A deer has more rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness than humans. nt doc03 Jul 2022 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author shrike3 Jul 2022 #55

Except its legal to shoot and kill deer without provocation depending on state law SYFROYH Jul 2022 #94

Whatever. milestogo Jul 2022 #10

True, but the legitimate use of guns is for hunting, self defense and target practise. TigressDem Jul 2022 #23

I remember when the Buckmasters slogan bmbmd Jul 2022 #25

My dad always hunted with Springfield 1913 30-06 with the original military peep sight. brewens Jul 2022 #26

2a isn't about hunting Calculating Jul 2022 #27

It's about defending the country/state. Wednesdays Jul 2022 #29

James Madison a big fan of the AR-15 was he? 48656c6c6f20 Jul 2022 #32

You need an AR to defend yourself? shrike3 Jul 2022 #36

Well you know when you're up against an Abrams tank or an M777 or an atomic bomb localroger Jul 2022 #49

On the battlefield, yes. shrike3 Jul 2022 #54

I say to all hunters who use a gun, rownesheck Jul 2022 #28

I used to bow hunt when I was a teenager wayyyyy back when, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #34

I used a Marlin Lurker Deluxe Jul 2022 #67

Well. it's either let mother nature take care of it or let the hunters. shrike3 Jul 2022 #35

All too often it's roadkill. Archae Jul 2022 #45

Forgot that component. You're right. shrike3 Jul 2022 #53

Always a classic. MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #71

So you would rather have them die slowly from lack of graze cause by overcrowding ripcord Jul 2022 #44

Hunters "cull" the best of the herd instead of the least fit DavidDvorkin Jul 2022 #61

I am quite sure that the deer that I manage to spot, track and kill are not the "best" of the herd. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #64

Not true, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #70

Hunting on public land is all about management Lurker Deluxe Jul 2022 #73

Do they? Happy Hoosier Jul 2022 #81

I don't hunt be be "bad ass," I hunt to get some good meat, among other reasons. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2022 #63

Know lots of deer hunters. They all say the same thing. shrike3 Jul 2022 #33

I agree! mentalsolstice Jul 2022 #39

Wild deer are NOT "Bambi." Archae Jul 2022 #48

Yep, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #72

They often waste away Texasgal Jul 2022 #111

Always been partial to Browning Bolt Action .243..... Deuce Jul 2022 #40

I believe the .243 is minimum acceptable strength for deer hunting. Paladin Jul 2022 #99

Fortunately the .300 AAC Blackout exists. n/t DiamondShark Jul 2022 #107

Pretty much all calibers are available semi-auto or bolt Lurker Deluxe Jul 2022 #42

True, the magic is in large magazines on semiauto receivers localroger Jul 2022 #50

Agee Lurker Deluxe Jul 2022 #57

I use a Mini 14 that fires the same overloaded .22 round as the AR 15 to hunt pigs ripcord Jul 2022 #43

One bullet, one deer. Jirel Jul 2022 #56

1 shot: deer; 2 shots: maybe deer; 3 shots: no deer Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2022 #58

+1 Roisin Ni Fiachra Jul 2022 #100

Yes. Exactly. MineralMan Jul 2022 #104

Five sounds like a lot. Iggo Jul 2022 #59

"One shot... one kill".... other than that.... albacore Jul 2022 #68

Some may disagree, but if you can't get your protein without killing an animal flvegan Jul 2022 #78

"Can?" Sure. Want? Nope. Happy Hoosier Jul 2022 #82

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And you keep sling insults. Happy Hoosier Jul 2022 #87

Humans have been hunting and eating animals for a couple hundred thousand years. PTWB Jul 2022 #90

Well aren't you nice... radicalleft Jul 2022 #91

Well, that's your opinion and you're welcome to it, MarineCombatEngineer Jul 2022 #101

We're the only ones saying gun rights are about hunting Amishman Jul 2022 #92

Who said "gun rights are about hunting"? It is just that some DO use hunting as an Atticus Jul 2022 #93

Bolt action rifles are weapons of war. SYFROYH Jul 2022 #95

Ok, thanks for that Fla_Democrat Jul 2022 #96

Bless your heart! nt Atticus Jul 2022 #98

Well, personally.... (pun alert) MissMillie Jul 2022 #97

That is also my sincerely held belief... Hugin Jul 2022 #102

All you need is a 12 gauge shotgun Emile Jul 2022 #103

Why 5 rounds? Why not restrict hunting to single shot rifles? Kaleva Jul 2022 #105