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Hortensis

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29. :) Well, perhaps that's not a dot so much as some of the glitter thrown up
Sat Jul 9, 2022, 07:00 PM
Jul 2022

Last edited Sat Jul 9, 2022, 07:35 PM - Edit history (1)

by far-right white supremacists to keep MAGAs dazzled and distracted. Definitely fascist or just some more run-of-the-mill far-right racism manipulator?

As you obviously know, Hitler did heavily employ conspiracism, German mythology, and occultism, along with of course giant, massive lies, to draw vulnerable sorts to his new ideology, but are those elements unique to fascism?

We do know that mythology, occultism, and conspiracism have all been and are used by leaders of other ideologies, including socialist and theocratic, on both left and right. Especially "charismatic" leaders who draw people less concerned with provable truth and science-based answers than the thrill of finding great truths unknown to most in a "great" leader and "great" cause. Some tRumpists, of course, 8 feet deep in it, but some on the left admired both Bernie Sanders and Marianne Williamson and some eventually migrated to the right as anti-vaxxers etcetera and likely more than a few eventually as Q-nuts running the spectrum.

(Liberal democratic leaders find them least useful in drawing and manipulating support and most likely to repel their larger proportion of more sober, self-honest, reality-grounded voters. Moderate conservative leaders used to have much the same problem, but not with what they'd have to work with these days if they ran.)

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"Wait for my orders. I'll give them to you." Novara Jul 2022 #1
I'm sure the proud boys knew what it meant a soon as they heard it Walleye Jul 2022 #2
I remember lots of us at DU knew what it meant at the time mucifer Jul 2022 #3
Yes, we did. Arkansas Granny Jul 2022 #5
This NewHendoLib Jul 2022 #6
Yup, we sure did nt Sunsky Jul 2022 #7
Quaditto unweird Jul 2022 #8
Yep, sure been a lot of years. arthritisR_US Jul 2022 #14
Yep...the national media had no clue, so they will say and continue to say. Fascists also. Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2022 #13
Actually, most were reporting and discussing this. Authoritarianism is a huge threat Hortensis Jul 2022 #18
+1 2naSalit Jul 2022 #23
TRump made many such fascist and anti-sense statements...before the assembled WH media... Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2022 #25
There no agreed on definition yet of fascism in modern political systems Hortensis Jul 2022 #26
Here's a dot that needs connection to something... AntiFascist Jul 2022 #27
:) Well, perhaps that's not a dot so much as some of the glitter thrown up Hortensis Jul 2022 #29
Trump and his following seem to have a fascination with Hitler's methodologies in particular... AntiFascist Jul 2022 #30
Oh, yes. But a lot of these behaviors are also typical Hortensis Jul 2022 #31
There may also be a callback to the ultimate populist authoritarian... AntiFascist Jul 2022 #32
:) Now, that's an especially interesting thought in the age of Hortensis Jul 2022 #33
I sort of made that up, don't sue me :) AntiFascist Jul 2022 #34
Oh, darn. I'm disappointed! :) Hortensis Jul 2022 #37
I just noticed, there's even a militia group called 'First Amendment Praetorian' involved in Jan 6! AntiFascist Jul 2022 #40
"Made up largely of Special Forces veterans and former intelligence officials" Hortensis Jul 2022 #41
"has worked with former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn"... AntiFascist Jul 2022 #44
+1000. Hortensis Jul 2022 #45
I certainly did. Caliman73 Jul 2022 #43
Prosecutors will probably use it during his trial. sop Jul 2022 #4
The Proud Boys knew what it meant Maeve Jul 2022 #9
"Proud cut" is the more commonly used term for a pseudo-male horse. TheRickles Jul 2022 #15
Yeah, something else to chuckle at! Maeve Jul 2022 #21
Always sounded that way to me. live love laugh Jul 2022 #10
Video IronLionZion Jul 2022 #11
Wallace asked him to tell them to stand down but Trump said "stand back and stand by". Solomon Jul 2022 #20
Dead On ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #28
Not just in hindsight! Dorian Gray Jul 2022 #12
Many here got it at the time. niyad Jul 2022 #16
+1 2naSalit Jul 2022 #24
I thought it sounded seditious at the time JT45242 Jul 2022 #17
It was a real goofball move to think it would hide in plain sight forever bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #19
... and regroup. keithbvadu2 Jul 2022 #22
It sounded exactly like all those things to me, the first time I heard it. yardwork Jul 2022 #35
Yes, but... kentuck Jul 2022 #36
True. yardwork Jul 2022 #38
Definitely heard it as a real threat electric_blue68 Jul 2022 #39
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2022 #42
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