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treestar

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Fri Jul 15, 2022, 11:32 AM

Jul 2022

voting is what we can do to be heard!

it is not something one is coddled and cajoled into doing - it's a great thing, not a burden! It is not something people have to be convinced to do -

The Constitution gives them this. Refusing to do it is is like refusing a million dollar lottery win.

There are people born in other countries who would do a lot to get here and have that!

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Young Voters Are Fed Up With Their (Much) Older Leaders [View all] Coventina Jul 2022 OP

'Young voters' mzmolly Jul 2022 #1

God knows they didn't get it in school. Haggard Celine Jul 2022 #13

Their elders really dropped the ball, doing away with civics classes in schools. nt. Mariana Jul 2022 #113

Yes they did. Haggard Celine Jul 2022 #120

well there, I'm afraid, is where we Democrats tend to drop the ball treestar Jul 2022 #160

+1 2naSalit Jul 2022 #48

The young have the numbers, they need to use them captain queeg Jul 2022 #2

The old also get out and vote Retrograde Jul 2022 #8

+1 2naSalit Jul 2022 #50

Very true captain queeg Jul 2022 #52

The old also get out and vote, and most of them vote for Republicans. nt. Mariana Jul 2022 #114

and that's exactly what Americans get to do treestar Jul 2022 #162

That's what I said at the Pentagon in 1967 at age 15 DFW Jul 2022 #3

Nope. Coventina Jul 2022 #11

I agree. And I'm the same age as you. Haggard Celine Jul 2022 #24

No shit. Isn't that what all young, people say about older, Greybnk48 Jul 2022 #77

I have a choice this fall between 2 Democrats Retrograde Jul 2022 #4

Then they need to vote! Elessar Zappa Jul 2022 #5

Then we are fucking doomed as they don't vote hardly at all...if they object to whoever then Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #9

Well it is divisive and should not be posted...this is agism pure and simple...and since the Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #6

☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Jul 2022 #14

That 22-year-old first time voter apparently didn't care enough in 2016 either AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2022 #19

Um....if she's 22 now, she would have been too young to vote in 2016. n/t Coventina Jul 2022 #26

I read it as she was 22 in 2020 SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #29

I agree it's a bit vaguely written, but even if that is so Coventina Jul 2022 #31

Nice try, but no SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #35

OK, got it. She missed her first election so her opinion does not matter for the rest of her life. Coventina Jul 2022 #39

No one said her opinion doesn't matter SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #43

If she doesn't vote at all her opinion does not matter treestar Jul 2022 #95

No, but the Supreme Court decisions The Revolution Jul 2022 #132

I read that as she was a 22-year-old first time voter in 2020 AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2022 #33

If she turned 18 in 2016 she might not have reached 18 in time to vote. n/t Coventina Jul 2022 #34

If she was 22 on Nov 3 2020 AZSkiffyGeek Jul 2022 #36

Please see my response #39 n/t Coventina Jul 2022 #40

That's not possible SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #38

That Couldn't Be It ProfessorGAC Jul 2022 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jul 2022 #56

+1 treestar Jul 2022 #85

Ageism isn't just against elders. You are wrong when you say the young barely vote Autumn Jul 2022 #214

WTF?! The Supreme Court decisions are NOT Biden's fault!! yardwork Jul 2022 #7

Yes it is and should not even be posted here...I suppose some Democrat hating entity Demsrule86 Jul 2022 #10

Hence the "lesson in civics" post #1. SergeStorms Jul 2022 #96

They don't know because their elders failed to educate them. nt. Mariana Jul 2022 #148

I would have more respect for their opinions ripcord Jul 2022 #122

Sorry but these people are just stupid. JI7 Jul 2022 #12

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #58

It was a bunch of new young justices that helped overturn Roe JI7 Jul 2022 #15

Excellent point. Boomerproud Jul 2022 #217

im 60 and i agree with the younger generation moonshinegnomie Jul 2022 #16

THANK YOU Skittles Jul 2022 #32

You can't "pass the baton" if there's no one there to pick it up. thucythucy Jul 2022 #53

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #59

I'm talking in general Skittles Jul 2022 #80

And yet when offered a relatively young woman as a candidate thucythucy Jul 2022 #99

People swore they would've voted for Warren had she run in 2016, always praised as a progressive betsuni Jul 2022 #105

I was an early and ardent supporter of Senator Warren. thucythucy Jul 2022 #108

Is it Hillary Clinton you are calling "relatively young"? Mariana Jul 2022 #141

Well, compared to Trump and Biden. thucythucy Jul 2022 #215

"Relatively young" Sympthsical Jul 2022 #176

There were many young candidates running in 2020 JI7 Jul 2022 #102

yeah but who got the prize Skittles Jul 2022 #133

NO ONE inthewind21 Jul 2022 #161

Pass the baton? inthewind21 Jul 2022 #159

66, here, and Hubby and I have been saying the same thing Maeve Jul 2022 #136

and yet here the younger generation gets called stupid moonshinegnomie Jul 2022 #139

Not by everyone; and the denigration of the young goes back to the start of time Maeve Jul 2022 #145

Well inthewind21 Jul 2022 #164

Leadership is about leading. thucythucy Jul 2022 #216

Don't misunderstand me...no one else could be Pelosi Maeve Jul 2022 #226

I agree--I also know young activists thucythucy Jul 2022 #232

That argument is meaningless when the polls showed treestar Jul 2022 #155

It's nothing new. It's what the '60s was all about. What the election... brush Jul 2022 #17

In the 60s, young people weren't getting economically wrecked by their parents Sympthsical Jul 2022 #22

Ok. It's still what happens. And newsflash: if you're in your early 40s... brush Jul 2022 #27

I'm definitely not young people Sympthsical Jul 2022 #30

What are you proposing exactly? Voting against Democrats? brush Jul 2022 #47

I take your point. thucythucy Jul 2022 #65

2016 isn't what broke Millennials Sympthsical Jul 2022 #73

I agree with the details you mention. thucythucy Jul 2022 #86

The gerontocracy idea generates a lot of discussion Sympthsical Jul 2022 #18

I sadly agree with you. I think that young people are not "seen" or "heard." Coventina Jul 2022 #25

If Student Loans were that important they would have voted for Elizabeth Warren JI7 Jul 2022 #55

It's an issue, not the only issue Sympthsical Jul 2022 #69

I'm not the one dismissing student loans. Voters did that by not supporting Warren who was the only JI7 Jul 2022 #71

2020 election by age group moonshinegnomie Jul 2022 #72

That is consonant with what I said. Sympthsical Jul 2022 #78

Good to know. thucythucy Jul 2022 #110

What do you suggest? thucythucy Jul 2022 #76

Stop sneering at their issues would be a huge start. Sympthsical Jul 2022 #82

Thank you for persisting. summer_in_TX Jul 2022 #104

I wasn't "resting on laurels." thucythucy Jul 2022 #106

Thank you for being patient & for actually trying to understand younger & dissatisfied voters SunImp Jul 2022 #125

+1 SunImp Jul 2022 #116

You get heard by voting treestar Jul 2022 #87

Vote harder and shut up! TransitJohn Jul 2022 #181

Slightly OT, but I wish there were more younger folks on DU. demmiblue Jul 2022 #20

I was a young person.....when I joined DU 20 years ago. Coventina Jul 2022 #21

To be honest... kentuck Jul 2022 #97

I agree. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #126

So inthewind21 Jul 2022 #168

good luck with that Celerity Jul 2022 #81

+1 SunImp Jul 2022 #130

We don't know that treestar Jul 2022 #91

My kids and the majority of their friends (early 20s) feel the same way. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #23

Well inthewind21 Jul 2022 #169

Having been young once, I understand their frustration. maxsolomon Jul 2022 #28

When I was young, I kept voting treestar Jul 2022 #92

Yes, I've never not voted. maxsolomon Jul 2022 #111

Then they need to get their butts to register to vote & show up at the polls onetexan Jul 2022 #37

why should they? moonshinegnomie Jul 2022 #44

ROE was overturned by Supreme Court Justices Appointed br Republicans JI7 Jul 2022 #54

thats a sure way to bring them to your side.call them stupid....... moonshinegnomie Jul 2022 #61

This is bs. There were many young people running for President in 2020 JI7 Jul 2022 #63

well I'm not going to say they are smart treestar Jul 2022 #90

Totally agree Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #103

What response do they expect on the federal level? SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2022 #150

Their futures are very dark because of climate change Kaleva Jul 2022 #66

Because that's the reality. tazkcmo Jul 2022 #83

Couldn't agree more!! onetexan Jul 2022 #166

lol we are fed up with them treestar Jul 2022 #89

If it was up to young voters AZProgressive Jul 2022 #222

If you are going to generalize by the majority of an age group treestar Jul 2022 #230

And here in lies the problem inthewind21 Jul 2022 #170

The story literally beings with a girl who voted for Biden in 2020 iemanja Jul 2022 #67

With age comes experience and usually more knowledge. Progressive dog Jul 2022 #42

In the US, with age comes a tendency to vote for Republicans. nt. Mariana Jul 2022 #115

And? Progressive dog Jul 2022 #137

An old idea that would work fine is a 70%+ tax rate. GoodRaisin Jul 2022 #45

In the 60s and 70s young people were fed up with the older generation too. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #46

What does anybody expect? Novara Jul 2022 #49

Sanders is old also. There were many young candidates running in 2020 JI7 Jul 2022 #60

and yet in this very thread they are being called stupid. moonshinegnomie Jul 2022 #70

No One Was Flat Called Stupid Willto Jul 2022 #128

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #129

Really? Celerity Jul 2022 #131

While I agree with the gist of your post ... Novara Jul 2022 #135

aren't you adding to the "snowflake" theme? treestar Jul 2022 #158

Well maybe if they don't vote for Biden, TFG could get back in! treestar Jul 2022 #88

I remember when I was in college and thought people in their 40's were old womanofthehills Jul 2022 #51

I'm 50 and Biden appears ancient to me. n/t TransitJohn Jul 2022 #193

Biden is ancient. That's just a fact. Mariana Jul 2022 #196

Yes, indeed peggysue2 Jul 2022 #210

I'm in my 50's, watching my parents (who are Biden's and Pelosi's age, Silent Generation), trying Wingus Dingus Jul 2022 #57

But why didn't young people vote for one of many young Democrats running JI7 Jul 2022 #62

Do you mean the Presidential primaries? Probably because they Wingus Dingus Jul 2022 #68

some people still subsccribe to the idea that "they have paid their dues" moonshinegnomie Jul 2022 #64

Yep. Our late-millennial sons laugh at our old ways of doing practically everything, which Wingus Dingus Jul 2022 #74

ive been spending a lot of time on reddit moonshinegnomie Jul 2022 #75

people in those age groups know those apps treestar Jul 2022 #93

Depends on the person treestar Jul 2022 #94

So what's her alternative? Not voting? 3rd party? mcar Jul 2022 #79

This looks like an interview with one person treestar Jul 2022 #84

It's not age, in itself, it's traits associated with age 867-5309. Jul 2022 #98

Right. They like Bernie, even though he's old, Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #127

Other than naming post offices, can you name one piece of groundbreaking legislation... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2022 #211

There is the Sanders-McCain VA bill that was signed by Obama AZProgressive Jul 2022 #220

"Authored" by BS? So, he merged a bill with a Republican? Fancy that. Will wonders never cease. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2022 #223

Republicans wanted to privatize the VA AZProgressive Jul 2022 #224

So, it wasn't really BS' bill. He merged his with JM's. Wasn't really my question though. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jul 2022 #225

They were on the same committee addressing the issue AZProgressive Jul 2022 #227

But we're never supposed to give an inch, remember? Merging with a Republican? Isn't that... Tarheel_Dem Jul 2022 #228

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #231

Well gosh, kids, I guess we'll just keep trying until we find one you like. Iggo Jul 2022 #100

So someone younger needs to step up then. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #101

like this... oioioi Jul 2022 #112

AOC? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #117

+1 betsuni Jul 2022 #119

She's Bernie's obvious successor. oioioi Jul 2022 #123

I don't think AOC could win. shrike3 Jul 2022 #153

Fears grow that Obama can't win....(2008) oioioi Jul 2022 #165

AOC would have to win the support of a broad range of voters . shrike3 Jul 2022 #174

Well... oioioi Jul 2022 #179

A non-answer on No. 3. She's gotten very good at politics. shrike3 Jul 2022 #182

I'm in my 70s and I would vote for AOC Emile Jul 2022 #190

That's good. shrike3 Jul 2022 #207

There are. If she was the nominee wouldn't you vote Emile Jul 2022 #208

Of course. But a lot has to happen before she is the nominee. shrike3 Jul 2022 #209

Yes. Like that. Iggo Jul 2022 #171

This reminds me of a new Marketing college grad I had to work with for a while nini Jul 2022 #107

Unrealistic expectations, believes "Democrats don't fight" "Why didn't Democrats stop __ ?" betsuni Jul 2022 #109

I was a teenage voter in the 90's Polybius Jul 2022 #118

You can't compare the state of the party in the '90s to today - the leadership of the party in the Midwestern Democrat Jul 2022 #134

I'm not comparing the state of the party, I'm just saying that young people don't vote Polybius Jul 2022 #172

I felt like that when I was their age and later too Raine Jul 2022 #121

"But he's too old" is the new "But her emails." betsuni Jul 2022 #124

this whole thread is prime example of why most polls show the dems in a lot of trouble in 2022 moonshinegnomie Jul 2022 #138

So you think Democrats have huge legislative majorities and don't do anything? betsuni Jul 2022 #140

The post you are replying explicitly noted Voltaire2 Jul 2022 #142

What actions? "a host of others" What? betsuni Jul 2022 #143

Again, read the post you replied to. Voltaire2 Jul 2022 #144

I didn't say it was. What are you talking about? betsuni Jul 2022 #146

+1 treestar Jul 2022 #157

why do we have to be their servants? treestar Jul 2022 #156

Um, a lot of polls show the Democratic Party Expanding in the Senate and House. Tommymac Jul 2022 #167

I was reading an article the other day about the Queen Sympthsical Jul 2022 #186

+1 spot on! Emile Jul 2022 #189

Doesn't matter much. Climate change is going to make survival for them really tough Kaleva Jul 2022 #147

Then it's their turn to run - have at it! Generic Brad Jul 2022 #149

It's not so much old politicians as old attitudes . . . . hatrack Jul 2022 #151

Thank you!! n/t Coventina Jul 2022 #152

No worries inthewind21 Jul 2022 #173

Very new, but strangely enough, reeking of straight-up Bronze Age bullshit hatrack Jul 2022 #180

Well inthewind21 Jul 2022 #154

As a middle age millennial now at the age of 39 Jspur Jul 2022 #163

Well inthewind21 Jul 2022 #175

The son of a friend of mine and his friends don't vote because they feel the Ds don't offer them shrike3 Jul 2022 #184

I"m middle aged so I don't need your Jspur Jul 2022 #188

THIS!!!!! moonshinegnomie Jul 2022 #192

"Nothing has changed?" thucythucy Jul 2022 #218

Oh, so much hatred of young people Bettie Jul 2022 #177

It seems to be a reflex to blame the young people for everything that's wrong. Mariana Jul 2022 #178

The fact Trump won the over 50 demographic Sympthsical Jul 2022 #183

Hopefully that 31% increases to 50% or more in the next few years SunImp Jul 2022 #198

Yep. It's just how things go here Bettie Jul 2022 #185

"No longer seriously young" Sympthsical Jul 2022 #199

Problem is, those old people do not think they are fucking over their children and grandchildren shrike3 Jul 2022 #187

A lot of them are dummies and are Jspur Jul 2022 #191

There is much denial of reality going on. Mariana Jul 2022 #195

They do it every chance they can get SunImp Jul 2022 #197

I always appreciate people living with government subsidy Sympthsical Jul 2022 #200

Living with government subsidy? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #201

Oh, there are other things Sympthsical Jul 2022 #203

Oh there are other things? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2022 #204

Not an accusation, just a general observation Sympthsical Jul 2022 #205

I love your t-shirt quote because Jspur Jul 2022 #206

+1 SunImp Jul 2022 #194

Can I get an amen?! demmiblue Jul 2022 #202

Yep. Sky Jewels Jul 2022 #212

I'm about that age too Bettie Jul 2022 #213

I'm sorry, but thucythucy Jul 2022 #219

Nobody. betsuni Jul 2022 #221

Hell, some of our older voters are fed up with our older leaders. Hotler Jul 2022 #229