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PCIntern

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Sun Jul 17, 2022, 08:55 AM Jul 2022

My Sunday morning diatribe... [View all]

Upon the death of Ivana Trump, there were a number of threads questioning the official story of her having fallen down the stairs, and instantly posters came forward denouncing just another “conspiracy theory”. Having lived through the Kennedy assassination and its aftermath and having watched the ridiculousness of the tortured explanations and coverage of that incident I am qualified to say there are conspiracy theories and then there are conspiracy theories.

I know we are not supposed to post any in this forum, but since I’ve been here for 18+ years I’m going to take a chance that this story worthy of a Hollywood film script won’t be alerted upon: so the President of the United States, having been elected in part by a giant program of Russian disinformation foisted upon the American people, loses a subsequent presidential election and conspires with members of the house of representatives, members of the retired military, lawyers, former and present CEOs of large American companies, the Russians again, local elected officials, and others to essentially overthrow the constitutional dictates of this country. Secret meetings were held in the oval office, the sanctum sanctorum of American democracy and executive power, the purposes of which were to illegally undermine and essentially destroy the notion of democracy in these United States. In concert with what are essentially American Nazis, having met secretly with them and or communicated via the Internet, a speech urging them was given with code words which sent a giant mob on its way to attack the Capitol building, possibly Lynch or at the very least capture and harm elected government officials including the vice president of the United States, and disrupt and destroy the process of certifying the new president.

There were literally hundreds of people involved at a criminal level, And at the head of all of this was the President of the United States and his militant and dangerous minions who communicated through various channels with each other and with groups to achieve destructive ends.

Oh wait… This is not a grandiose fictional “conspiracy theory” this is a fact: this is a “theory” inasmuch as it is similar to the “theory of identical vertical angles” in geometry… It is provable and true. So when someone posits a thought and it’s denounced as a “conspiracy theory”, the denigration should be very carefully measured. There are conspiracies and they are effective and prevalent in business, personal lives, and international relations. Anytime two or more people discuss a plan to perform illegal acts it is a conspiracy. By definition

To return to Ivana Trump….her ex-husband is a mobster, he is capable as we know of any behavior for which the English language has words, and as far as motive goes…what do any of us know about this bunch behind closed doors? I give him and his minions ZERO benefit of the doubt. Things have become so criminally insane that you have to prove to me that she had an accident, not the other way around. That’s how you deal with Nazis- no trust, no presumption of innocence. Oh, and one more thing…unconditional surrender.

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My Sunday morning diatribe... [View all] PCIntern Jul 2022 OP
TY Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #1
PREACH HAB911 Jul 2022 #2
Given what we know about that family Bettie Jul 2022 #3
They'll "mourn" when it gets them out of depositions etc, FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #24
Yes, their mourning is a Bettie Jul 2022 #28
By rights it shouldn't by the more than a week. dflprincess Jul 2022 #79
Very well-stated Pacifist Patriot Jul 2022 #4
I agree with you in toto PCIntern Jul 2022 #5
And I totally agree with you, PCIntern. Furthermore, it was made "politically incorrect" to BComplex Jul 2022 #50
At the end of the day, I can say no more than it is certain... Hugin Jul 2022 #6
I agree with all you said - the question I have is why Ivana? rurallib Jul 2022 #7
Her sudden death allowed tfg to skip his Friday deposition, for one. panader0 Jul 2022 #20
Plus, it's well known that Putin's spies were in touch with her at her Prague residence peppertree Jul 2022 #35
Many seem unable to believe the medical examiner's conclusion that Ivanka Trump fell down the stairs Ptah Jul 2022 #8
Bravo! Well said. Paladin Jul 2022 #9
That despicable bastard is NOT to be trusted under any circumstances. calimary Jul 2022 #13
Definitely worth considering whether she fell or was pushed. TheRickles Jul 2022 #10
Phew. That's quite a read (as much as I have so far.) Would benefit from some graphs showing erronis Jul 2022 #16
How many times has our "fake news" been proven as truthful? Mr. Ected Jul 2022 #11
K&R Alice Kramden Jul 2022 #12
Righteous. kairos12 Jul 2022 #14
The timing of Ivana's death in relation to Trump's scheduled deposition is "interesting" dlk Jul 2022 #15
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2022 #17
Conspire - literally, to breath together. TheRickles Jul 2022 #21
Yes. H2O Man Jul 2022 #25
I'm naturally suspicious Marthe48 Jul 2022 #18
I appreciate what you're saying. NanceGreggs Jul 2022 #19
True, but there's more than just a delayed deposition at stake here. TheRickles Jul 2022 #22
While I'm in agreement with Nance Mr. Evil Jul 2022 #49
Completely agree. n/t sammythecat Jul 2022 #23
It's not a conspiracy theory until it's proven false. llmart Jul 2022 #26
+1 H2O Man Jul 2022 #27
THANK YOU! stopdiggin Jul 2022 #37
I'm only suspicious of the explanation. But I just can't vanlassie Jul 2022 #52
so you have touble with the hip pain? stopdiggin Jul 2022 #62
Right. Bad hip taking stairs? Assuming there would have been a lift. vanlassie Jul 2022 #67
I agree. Now, if Melania had taken a header down the grand gilded staircase at Mar-a-Lago, that sop Jul 2022 #29
Thank you. llmart Jul 2022 #30
And one thing a mob boss cultivates... Grasswire2 Jul 2022 #74
True. llmart Jul 2022 #82
What could she POSSIBLY KNOW that would be a NEW danger to TFG?? n/t TeamProg Jul 2022 #31
We don't know what we don't know. Higherarky Jul 2022 #42
!!! TeamProg Jul 2022 #43
I'm in absolute agreement. pandr32 Jul 2022 #32
You forgot the part of about the wife of the Supreme Court justice tulipsandroses Jul 2022 #33
I hear you. I think she likely fell, but like you said, no trust where Trump is remotely involved. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #34
Sorry, no one has to "prove" to you that she had an accident. former9thward Jul 2022 #36
exactly stopdiggin Jul 2022 #38
Well, this is a look Sympthsical Jul 2022 #39
We all have experience with this guy. He never does ANYTHING honestly if he can do Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #61
Agreed. Using the term "conspiracy theory" to dismiss, MarcA Jul 2022 #40
I find the official cause of death a bit strange.. yellowdogintexas Jul 2022 #41
I could picture it happening on the back of the torso. Low back or kidney area causing internal Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #60
Wouldn't the medical examiner's word then have been back? summer_in_TX Jul 2022 #80
K&R spanone Jul 2022 #44
Ivana was an "Olympic athlete" per Dimdonnie. Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #45
More on StB-KGB Trump thing... Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #46
Maybe, at that time, Mr. Evil Jul 2022 #51
The Manchurian Moron had one major fault. Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #65
OMG! Mr. Evil Jul 2022 #66
Nyet collusion! czarjak Jul 2022 #71
The trump family is like a 21st century reincarnation of the Borgias. Siwsan Jul 2022 #47
Wouldn't surprise me if she was self-medicating for hip pain and anxiety over her offspring diane in sf Jul 2022 #54
Your suggestion is the most realistic thing I've seen FakeNoose Jul 2022 #68
KnR Hekate Jul 2022 #48
👏👏👏👏👏👏 n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2022 #53
+1 bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #55
This is an epic homegirl Jul 2022 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Jul 2022 #57
Good essay Hekate Jul 2022 #58
Well said! When I heard she fell down the stairs I thought, "How very Russian!" It was probably Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #59
Well, it's just like ymetca Jul 2022 #63
Interestingly enough, I woke up questioning how Ivana actually died, I'm very suspect Cozmo Jul 2022 #64
With all things RTump... ultralite001 Jul 2022 #69
The company one kept... ultralite001 Jul 2022 #70
Ironically enough ... NanceGreggs Jul 2022 #72
Well Done, PCIntern! So m any Cha Jul 2022 #73
If I were connected orthoclad Jul 2022 #75
Whatever. Is there any reason that Donald would have wanted to kill Ivanka? Martin68 Jul 2022 #76
Are you SERIOUS ????????????????????? Haggis 4 Breakfast Jul 2022 #77
You won't hear any complaints about your "diatribe" from me.... Sogo Jul 2022 #78
A fall down the stairs MFM008 Jul 2022 #81
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