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Kid Berwyn

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46. More on StB-KGB Trump thing...

Sun Jul 17, 2022, 01:25 PM

Jul 2022

From The Guardian:

Daněk said his senior colleagues at the StB’s headquarters in Prague were focused on Trump too. “It wasn’t only us who paid attention to him. The first department of the StB were interested in him. I don’t know if the first directorate shared information on Trump with the KGB. I can’t verify or deny.”

He added: “I don’t want to tell you any more details. It’s a past I would like to forget. I don’t want to have any problems.”

The files do not say if the Soviet Union ordered or shaped the decade-long StB Trump operation. But Czechoslovakian spies routinely shared secrets with KGB colleagues and the Moscow security agency had a large liaison office in Prague. Many StB officers also worked directly for the KGB, known as “the friends”.

In summer 1987, Donald and Ivana Trump visited Moscow and Leningrad, following a personal invitation from the Soviet ambassador in Washington, Yuri Dubinin. The trip was arranged by Intourist, a travel agency that was also an undercover KGB outfit. Soon after returning from Moscow, Trump announced he was thinking of running for president. That presidential bid failed to materialise.

In October 1988, on the eve of the US election, Ivana Trump visited her parents in Zlín, known at the time as Gottwaldov. According to the files she “confidently” predicted Bush’s victory to her father, who in turn passed the tip to local StB officers.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/oct/29/trump-czechoslovakia-communism-spying

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My Sunday morning diatribe... [View all] PCIntern Jul 2022 OP

TY Ferrets are Cool Jul 2022 #1

PREACH HAB911 Jul 2022 #2

Given what we know about that family Bettie Jul 2022 #3

They'll "mourn" when it gets them out of depositions etc, FoxNewsSucks Jul 2022 #24

Yes, their mourning is a Bettie Jul 2022 #28

By rights it shouldn't by the more than a week. dflprincess Jul 2022 #79

Very well-stated Pacifist Patriot Jul 2022 #4

I agree with you in toto PCIntern Jul 2022 #5

And I totally agree with you, PCIntern. Furthermore, it was made "politically incorrect" to BComplex Jul 2022 #50

At the end of the day, I can say no more than it is certain... Hugin Jul 2022 #6

I agree with all you said - the question I have is why Ivana? rurallib Jul 2022 #7

Her sudden death allowed tfg to skip his Friday deposition, for one. panader0 Jul 2022 #20

Plus, it's well known that Putin's spies were in touch with her at her Prague residence peppertree Jul 2022 #35

Many seem unable to believe the medical examiner's conclusion that Ivanka Trump fell down the stairs Ptah Jul 2022 #8

Bravo! Well said. Paladin Jul 2022 #9

That despicable bastard is NOT to be trusted under any circumstances. calimary Jul 2022 #13

Definitely worth considering whether she fell or was pushed. TheRickles Jul 2022 #10

Phew. That's quite a read (as much as I have so far.) Would benefit from some graphs showing erronis Jul 2022 #16

How many times has our "fake news" been proven as truthful? Mr. Ected Jul 2022 #11

K&R Alice Kramden Jul 2022 #12

Righteous. kairos12 Jul 2022 #14

The timing of Ivana's death in relation to Trump's scheduled deposition is "interesting" dlk Jul 2022 #15

Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2022 #17

Conspire - literally, to breath together. TheRickles Jul 2022 #21

Yes. H2O Man Jul 2022 #25

I'm naturally suspicious Marthe48 Jul 2022 #18

I appreciate what you're saying. NanceGreggs Jul 2022 #19

True, but there's more than just a delayed deposition at stake here. TheRickles Jul 2022 #22

While I'm in agreement with Nance Mr. Evil Jul 2022 #49

Completely agree. n/t sammythecat Jul 2022 #23

It's not a conspiracy theory until it's proven false. llmart Jul 2022 #26

+1 H2O Man Jul 2022 #27

THANK YOU! stopdiggin Jul 2022 #37

I'm only suspicious of the explanation. But I just can't vanlassie Jul 2022 #52

so you have touble with the hip pain? stopdiggin Jul 2022 #62

Right. Bad hip taking stairs? Assuming there would have been a lift. vanlassie Jul 2022 #67

I agree. Now, if Melania had taken a header down the grand gilded staircase at Mar-a-Lago, that sop Jul 2022 #29

Thank you. llmart Jul 2022 #30

And one thing a mob boss cultivates... Grasswire2 Jul 2022 #74

True. llmart Jul 2022 #82

What could she POSSIBLY KNOW that would be a NEW danger to TFG?? n/t TeamProg Jul 2022 #31

We don't know what we don't know. Higherarky Jul 2022 #42

!!! TeamProg Jul 2022 #43

I'm in absolute agreement. pandr32 Jul 2022 #32

You forgot the part of about the wife of the Supreme Court justice tulipsandroses Jul 2022 #33

I hear you. I think she likely fell, but like you said, no trust where Trump is remotely involved. Joinfortmill Jul 2022 #34

Sorry, no one has to "prove" to you that she had an accident. former9thward Jul 2022 #36

exactly stopdiggin Jul 2022 #38

Well, this is a look Sympthsical Jul 2022 #39

We all have experience with this guy. He never does ANYTHING honestly if he can do Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #61

Agreed. Using the term "conspiracy theory" to dismiss, MarcA Jul 2022 #40

I find the official cause of death a bit strange.. yellowdogintexas Jul 2022 #41

I could picture it happening on the back of the torso. Low back or kidney area causing internal Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #60

Wouldn't the medical examiner's word then have been back? summer_in_TX Jul 2022 #80

K&R spanone Jul 2022 #44

Ivana was an "Olympic athlete" per Dimdonnie. Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #45

More on StB-KGB Trump thing... Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #46

Maybe, at that time, Mr. Evil Jul 2022 #51

The Manchurian Moron had one major fault. Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #65

OMG! Mr. Evil Jul 2022 #66

Nyet collusion! czarjak Jul 2022 #71

The trump family is like a 21st century reincarnation of the Borgias. Siwsan Jul 2022 #47

Wouldn't surprise me if she was self-medicating for hip pain and anxiety over her offspring diane in sf Jul 2022 #54

Your suggestion is the most realistic thing I've seen FakeNoose Jul 2022 #68

KnR Hekate Jul 2022 #48

👏👏👏👏👏👏 n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2022 #53

+1 bucolic_frolic Jul 2022 #55

This is an epic homegirl Jul 2022 #56

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Good essay Hekate Jul 2022 #58

Well said! When I heard she fell down the stairs I thought, "How very Russian!" It was probably Scrivener7 Jul 2022 #59

Well, it's just like ymetca Jul 2022 #63

Interestingly enough, I woke up questioning how Ivana actually died, I'm very suspect Cozmo Jul 2022 #64

With all things RTump... ultralite001 Jul 2022 #69

The company one kept... ultralite001 Jul 2022 #70

Ironically enough ... NanceGreggs Jul 2022 #72

Well Done, PCIntern! So m any Cha Jul 2022 #73

If I were connected orthoclad Jul 2022 #75

Whatever. Is there any reason that Donald would have wanted to kill Ivanka? Martin68 Jul 2022 #76

Are you SERIOUS ????????????????????? Haggis 4 Breakfast Jul 2022 #77

You won't hear any complaints about your "diatribe" from me.... Sogo Jul 2022 #78

A fall down the stairs MFM008 Jul 2022 #81