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Orrex

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22. Simple common sense defeats just about every defense offered so far

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Mon Aug 15, 2022, 11:10 AM

Aug 2022

It makes no sense that Trump would pilfer documents that weren't "truly classified," because what would be the point?

For that matter, what would be the point of stealing non-classified documents at all?

Trump isn't sentimental, so there's no explanation there. If he intended them for some kind of library for the illiterate, there are established channels for that. And everything Trump does is done with the ultimate goal of making money or otherwise securing leverage to avoid later accountability.

With all of this in mind, it is unthinkable that he took documents of no value, and it is unthinkable that he had any intent other than to sell those documents.

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The FBI found evidence at Mar-a-Lago that Team Trump can't ignore [View all] LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 OP

See the cartoon in my signature line malaise Aug 2022 #1

Lock him up! Higherarky Aug 2022 #2

ahh, the ol' "classified" and "truly classified" yeah, okay n/t hibbing Aug 2022 #3

It actually is a helpful difference, for prosecution of Trump. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #43

Regardless of classification, having the documents there and denying it makes him guilty. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #46

I wasn't addressing whether he was guilty. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #50

Those that would be involved in that decision at the time should testify. LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #48

The simple truth about the whole incident come from the personal knowledge Chainfire Aug 2022 #4

The fact that he was POTUS makes that even worse. Frustratedlady Aug 2022 #6

Didn't moms smoke and drink? Aviation Pro Aug 2022 #8

I don't know, but living with that ugly husband of hers would give her good reason to do so. Frustratedlady Aug 2022 #9

It would create precedence, and that would be used by lawyers everywhere each time a GOP member Escurumbele Aug 2022 #11

Is the punishment for discarding the cup incident true? brush Aug 2022 #15

It is true, it did happen, and the sailor did whine about your point about the "order." Chainfire Aug 2022 #18

So it's up to the captain to decide whether to... brush Aug 2022 #21

I would be willing to bet that you never lived under the UCMJ. Chainfire Aug 2022 #24

Thanks for the inside info on what can go on on Navy ships. brush Aug 2022 #28

Still, it should be just treestar Aug 2022 #54

How often do those punishments occur? LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #49

Captain's masts or I believe the Army calls it "Office Hours" are not infrequent. Chainfire Aug 2022 #55

" He is too dangerous t national security to remain free." calimary Aug 2022 #19

Great response post! Someone on MSNBC said that it did not matter if the material was declassified. LaMouffette Aug 2022 #25

"Trump needs to be charged and he needs to be charged today." Novara Aug 2022 #26

I was an ET in the Navy stationed on an Amphibious Flag ship during Viet Nam. Tacan Aug 2022 #41

destroying government property Submariner Aug 2022 #42

If you were actually on a sub, like my brother . . . . Haggis 4 Breakfast Aug 2022 #56

Not only could no nuke boat pictures be taken Submariner Aug 2022 #60

Funny you mention diesel boats. Haggis 4 Breakfast Aug 2022 #61

Point Loma navy base 2abigbman Aug 2022 #63

The fact that he was POTUS makes it different. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #44

as loath as I am to admit it, I think you are probably correct stopdiggin Aug 2022 #58

He can't presidential powers himself out of lowering the restrictions on nuclear information. Ms. Toad Aug 2022 #59

Had it been a cup full of strawberries he would have faced hard time grantcart Aug 2022 #47

Your captain was kinda a jerk then... druidity33 Aug 2022 #65

But evidence doesn't matter to these people. nycbos Aug 2022 #5

But it has to matter to the DOJ, republicans may not care about it, or pretend they don't Escurumbele Aug 2022 #13

Your posted Tweet has nothing to do with the headline or story. brooklynite Aug 2022 #7

So? flying_wahini Aug 2022 #12

So why include it? brooklynite Aug 2022 #17

Your last paragraph says it all. The Presidential Records Act... brush Aug 2022 #10

Look in Ivana's coffin for more documents OMGWTF Aug 2022 #14

For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #16

OMG! calimary Aug 2022 #20

It's probably an old mob boss trick. The grave's a fine and private place... Hekate Aug 2022 #23

When I was a little kid back in the 50's, gab13by13 Aug 2022 #31

What a question! Trump's depravity has no bottom. n/t Eyeball_Kid Aug 2022 #30

Ivana's ashes may not even BE in the coffin! But classified documents, Eyeball_Kid Aug 2022 #29

Does one get a search order or some such thing? calimary Aug 2022 #33

Exhumation Hekate Aug 2022 #37

Did any Trump family members carry the casket? GreenWave Aug 2022 #52

Well, three of them are her actual children, so absent specific instructions in her Will/End of Li... Hekate Aug 2022 #53

Cremation gets rid of murder evidence wnylib Aug 2022 #66

Simple common sense defeats just about every defense offered so far Orrex Aug 2022 #22

Nope. He did it for the VALUE of those documents. calimary Aug 2022 #34

REMEMBER! Classification of Docs is IRRELEVANT! Eyeball_Kid Aug 2022 #27

Execution please, nothing else should do, 300,000+ extra caz of the asshole. Brainfodder Aug 2022 #32

Another Thing Not Mentioned DallasNE Aug 2022 #35

The thing is... boyedav1969 Aug 2022 #36

Wonder if there is any relation to these documents and wnylib Aug 2022 #67

declassified and forgot to file the paperwork... jcgoldie Aug 2022 #38

Trump cannot legally have possession of the government documents. LiberalFighter Aug 2022 #39

Why would he declassify nuclear weapon secrets? ThoughtCriminal Aug 2022 #40

Opinion Leaving with nuclear secrets would be Trump's dumbest, scariest stunt yet LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #45

So, he just proved that certain classified material wasn't declassified. Dysfunctional Aug 2022 #51

I don't agree with the conclusion this author draws. drray23 Aug 2022 #57

Yeah, DT(?Domestic Terrorist) can Cha Aug 2022 #62

K & R SunSeeker Aug 2022 #64

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