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In reply to the discussion: The FBI found evidence at Mar-a-Lago that Team Trump can't ignore [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(173,661 posts)45. Opinion Leaving with nuclear secrets would be Trump's dumbest, scariest stunt yet
It would be criminal to leave nuclear material with TFG
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A defeated former president who was at the center of a failed coup allegedly walks out the door with nuclear secrets, refuses to give them back and then leaves a creepy, semi-threatening message for the attorney general thats apparently where we are. Donald Trump and his apologists are as dangerous to our national security as spies and traitors who would spirit away our most closely held secrets.
The documents at issue supposedly include material so confidential it merits a top secret rating (TS/SCI) that no president let alone an ex-president can wish away.
Former FBI special agent and lawyer Asha Rangappa dismisses Trumps assertion that he declassified everything: The claim is bogus because clearly the current position of the United States government is that these documents are classified. This is controlling, whatever he did before he left office. She adds, He has no classification authority as of Jan. 20, 2021. Trump forgets that whatever awesome powers and immunities he held as president now belong to [President] Biden.
Indeed, this nondefense bolsters the conclusion that Trump knew the documents were classified. It is an admission because it would mean Trump had knowledge of the content of the documents, and that he apparently planned to remove them once relabeled, observes Ryan Goodman, national security law expert and co-editor of Just Security......
If the reported facts are true, Trump knowingly took the countrys most sensitive secrets, refused to give them back and, through his lawyer, falsely attested he had no such documents. Whatever his ultimate motive (e.g., selling secrets, showing hes somehow still in power), no senior civilian official, let alone the president, has ever engaged in such appalling conduct. And the GOP not only defends him but smears and endangers the FBI through deliberate disinformation. No national party has ever done that, either.
Whatever criminal indictments follow, all but MAGA cultists should acknowledge that neither Trump nor his party is fit to hold office.
The documents at issue supposedly include material so confidential it merits a top secret rating (TS/SCI) that no president let alone an ex-president can wish away.
Former FBI special agent and lawyer Asha Rangappa dismisses Trumps assertion that he declassified everything: The claim is bogus because clearly the current position of the United States government is that these documents are classified. This is controlling, whatever he did before he left office. She adds, He has no classification authority as of Jan. 20, 2021. Trump forgets that whatever awesome powers and immunities he held as president now belong to [President] Biden.
Indeed, this nondefense bolsters the conclusion that Trump knew the documents were classified. It is an admission because it would mean Trump had knowledge of the content of the documents, and that he apparently planned to remove them once relabeled, observes Ryan Goodman, national security law expert and co-editor of Just Security......
If the reported facts are true, Trump knowingly took the countrys most sensitive secrets, refused to give them back and, through his lawyer, falsely attested he had no such documents. Whatever his ultimate motive (e.g., selling secrets, showing hes somehow still in power), no senior civilian official, let alone the president, has ever engaged in such appalling conduct. And the GOP not only defends him but smears and endangers the FBI through deliberate disinformation. No national party has ever done that, either.
Whatever criminal indictments follow, all but MAGA cultists should acknowledge that neither Trump nor his party is fit to hold office.
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The FBI found evidence at Mar-a-Lago that Team Trump can't ignore [View all]
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 2022
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Regardless of classification, having the documents there and denying it makes him guilty.
Hermit-The-Prog
Aug 2022
#46
Those that would be involved in that decision at the time should testify.
LiberalFighter
Aug 2022
#48
I don't know, but living with that ugly husband of hers would give her good reason to do so.
Frustratedlady
Aug 2022
#9
It would create precedence, and that would be used by lawyers everywhere each time a GOP member
Escurumbele
Aug 2022
#11
It is true, it did happen, and the sailor did whine about your point about the "order."
Chainfire
Aug 2022
#18
Captain's masts or I believe the Army calls it "Office Hours" are not infrequent.
Chainfire
Aug 2022
#55
Great response post! Someone on MSNBC said that it did not matter if the material was declassified.
LaMouffette
Aug 2022
#25
He can't presidential powers himself out of lowering the restrictions on nuclear information.
Ms. Toad
Aug 2022
#59
But it has to matter to the DOJ, republicans may not care about it, or pretend they don't
Escurumbele
Aug 2022
#13
Well, three of them are her actual children, so absent specific instructions in her Will/End of Li...
Hekate
Aug 2022
#53
Execution please, nothing else should do, 300,000+ extra caz of the asshole.
Brainfodder
Aug 2022
#32
Opinion Leaving with nuclear secrets would be Trump's dumbest, scariest stunt yet
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 2022
#45