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dutch777

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12. I suspect much of the private presidential and sr exec offices in the WH are SCIFs de facto
Mon Aug 15, 2022, 06:09 PM
Aug 2022

The level of security is very high, they are swept for listening devices regularly, the windows are tinted and insulated in a way to protect from long range telescopes "reading over the President's shoulder" and so that laser or other long range remote vibration microphones can't hear the conversation in the room via glass in the windows. I worked in a SCIF for 2 years in the military and while ours was essentially a very oversize bank vault with no windows and only one way in or out and under 24/7 armed guard, I think many rooms in the WH where there is no general public access and only carefully screened visitors are allowed would more than qualify. We did lock all Secret and above classified docs in combination safe like filing cabinets at the end of each day. All that said, when we left for the day that armed guard searched us and our briefcases and nothing with a classification marking above Confidential was allowed out. Unless there were clear orders, appropriate guard/escort and a locked secure briefcase, documents lived and died in the SCIF. Classified docs no longer needed were shredded and placed in burn bags which were escorted under guard to a burn facility and certified destroyed. There was no accounting though for classified docs, no inventory. Unless someone went looking for something and just couldn't find it, we would have had no way of knowing day to day if something was missing. In the case of a President and senior staff I can't quite see the Marine guards being quite as nosy as our MPs were.

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Yes. malthaussen Aug 2022 #1
Yeeeehah! G2theD Aug 2022 #2
Jared fought tooth and nail with General Kelly to get his security clearance ... kentuck Aug 2022 #3
The investigators refused to clear Jared for top secret classification. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #14
Classified documents at every level are stored in secure rooms VMA131Marine Aug 2022 #4
But TFG promised to put a padlock on the door. Sneederbunk Aug 2022 #5
Neither confidential nor secret docs Deminpenn Aug 2022 #10
They would be in a secure room with at least 2-factor authentication VMA131Marine Aug 2022 #13
No they are not Deminpenn Aug 2022 #16
So how did you control access to your open office to people who were not cleared VMA131Marine Aug 2022 #23
Everyone had clearance and Deminpenn Aug 2022 #24
Other than to sell why would an x president need doc03 Aug 2022 #6
Possibly because he wants to pretend that he's still leftieNanner Aug 2022 #7
Yes. n/t LuckyCharms Aug 2022 #8
Looks to be correct. Let's remember he got them while POTUS underpants Aug 2022 #9
IN the 60s, at NSA headquarters, there were colored lines on the floor. Dysfunctional Aug 2022 #11
In the early 80's there were still color lines CRK7376 Aug 2022 #19
I suspect much of the private presidential and sr exec offices in the WH are SCIFs de facto dutch777 Aug 2022 #12
Amy Klobuchar said she had to remove her Fitbit to enter G2theD Aug 2022 #17
No cell phones, fitbits, electronics etc. CRK7376 Aug 2022 #20
Then how was Trump able to get documents out of the SCIF? G2theD Aug 2022 #18
Michael Flynn... AntiFascist Aug 2022 #15
I doubt presidents have to leave the WH to view TS/SCI documents. onenote Aug 2022 #21
I'm just wondering how they could show up at MAL G2theD Aug 2022 #22
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