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Jarqui

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18. I think a number of things got revealed ...
Fri Aug 26, 2022, 02:42 PM
Aug 2022

- little that is good for Trump

We learned more details about how it unfolded.

It provides more details on what they found in the first fifteen boxes - 25 top secret documents for example.
What they anticipated in the warrant more specifically appears to be validated by what they found.

It counters Trump's claim that he declassified the material.

It lays out some of the criminal legal rationale in an additional exhibit.

It addresses why they had to redact (that these witnesses could be at risk or suffer retaliatory acts) and in doing so, establishes they have several cooperating civilian witnesses. You see 20+ pages redacted - which is a little stunning.

It details how the classified documents were not secure. The SCIF Trump had for reviewing classified material at Mar-a-lago does not exist anymore. Classified documents were mixed haphazardly with other documents.

The affidavit shows the back and forth on this between Trump, NARA and the DoJ lasted more than a year (starting in May 2021 or before).
It affirms the claim of Trump & his attorney that all classified documents had been returned. (but the subsequent search proved otherwise and therefore, was justified)

The letter from Trump's lawyer is revealing. It and more in the affidavit goes to the heart of the obstruction charge which hasn't been talked about as much. They also specify some of what Patel was saying. Trump is going to have a problem defending that letter and Patel. There is a video where Patel contradicts to say Trump tried to do a blanket declassification and was unable to over the objections of his people and post Oval office time, Patel was going to try to get the records declassified. They felt that there was evidence of obstruction of justice at Mar-a-lago - which was part of the basis of the search.

They also sought to recover Presidential documents for NARA.

They outline that they need to continue to investigate who had access to this info, etc. - it's ongoing.

Past FBI agent said on ABC "This case is much further down the road than many cases I've worked on in the past - which suggests that the fact it is Mar-a-lago and the former POTUS doesn't seem to be slowing them down."

The affidavit puts in black & white that there is a substantial investigation of crimes here with 20+ pages of redacted summary evidence.

I think back to the Trumpers on the Manafort jury and when they saw the evidence in black and white - that turned them against Manafort.

I cannot help but wonder what the powerbrokers of the GOP are thinking after looking at this.

I think the media will spend mega hours going over this and it will be very difficult to dismiss it as a nothing burger.

As one put it, Trump desperately needs a really good criminal lawyer.

I think the FBI/DoJ were smart. They put out enough that doesn't appear to compromise their case or witnesses but will convince many that Trump broke the law and he has a real problem here. And that should put fewer FBI and DoJ personnel at risk along with reducing the risk to the judge.

It was never going to be good news for Trump. I think that was a pretty good effort - ticked a lot of boxes.

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This affidavit is alarming but yet..... [View all] imanamerican63 Aug 2022 OP
I was with the release since the start because I believed the DoJ will do a good job at redacting Claustrum Aug 2022 #1
Can u post a copy? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #2
No, just listening to what is reported on the radio. imanamerican63 Aug 2022 #3
Here's a link to it on CNN's website: GregariousGroundhog Aug 2022 #4
Hmmm, I see the word "ketchup" was finally blacked out on that one page FoxNewsSucks Aug 2022 #13
Here: dalton99a Aug 2022 #5
Thank you so much!!! Was hitting that link today and Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #21
Example of previous archivist communications AnnaLee Aug 2022 #6
That is how most federal agencies operate BumRushDaShow Aug 2022 #10
Yes, worked for Feds too back in 2002. You could not sneeze Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #23
TY, AG Garland! SheltieLover Aug 2022 #7
The GQP Traildogbob Aug 2022 #8
Yes, the big oaf still has no idea who ratted him out Warpy Aug 2022 #9
Unless MBS or Pootie wants it to be found. rubbersole Aug 2022 #11
"some of it will never be found." FoxNewsSucks Aug 2022 #12
and how much was copied and disseminated Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #15
...and left with the crooked lawyer of his choice? Warpy Aug 2022 #16
Could have given them out as door prizes for all we know. Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #20
8 people. That's what I counted in the redacted doc. Just based Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #24
Maybe someone will point that out to him Warpy Aug 2022 #26
Ya, just a pure guess based on spacing. Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #27
And, So Grateful to see AG Garland Cha Aug 2022 #14
Garland will "Get Him." So will Letitia James. (N Y Atty Gen.) Trump will be gotten, takes time. Stuart G Aug 2022 #17
I think a number of things got revealed ... Jarqui Aug 2022 #18
Thanks for this analysis. blue neen Aug 2022 #22
I didn't read every word either. Too busy. Too much. Jarqui Aug 2022 #25
I am hoping that the FBI is doing some investigation on to whom trump may have given that info Escurumbele Aug 2022 #19
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