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crickets

(26,168 posts)
12. This is insane.
Sat Aug 27, 2022, 03:23 PM
Aug 2022

It is cruel and unusual punishment. What about all of the money inmates generate while behind bars?
Inmates in work programs save multiple states untold millions in wages that would otherwise have to be paid by hiring from the civilian job market.


US prison workers produce $11bn worth of goods and services a year for pittance
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jun/15/us-prison-workers-low-wages-exploited
No paywall: https://archive.ph/HcWOS

Incarcerated workers in the US produce at least $11bn in goods and services annually but receive just pennies an hour in wages for their prison jobs, according to a new report from the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

Nearly two-thirds of all prisoners in the US, which imprisons more of its population than any other country in the world, have jobs in state and federal prisons. That figure amounts to roughly 800,000 people, researchers estimated in the report, which is based on extensive public records requests, questionnaires and interviews with incarcerated workers.

ACLU researchers say the findings outlined in Wednesday’s report raise concerns about the systemic exploitation of prisoners, who are compelled to work sometimes difficult and dangerous jobs without basic labor protections and little or no training while making close to nothing. [snip]

Public officials have acknowledged that the work of these unpaid and poorly compensated incarcerated laborers is crucial: “There’s no way we can take care of our facilities, our roads, our ditches, if we didn’t have inmate labor,” Warren Yeager, a former Gulf county, Florida, commissioner said to the Florida Times-Union.



Arizona Can't Function Without Forced Labor, Is That Bad?
https://www.wonkette.com/arizona-can-t-function-without-forced-labor-says-corrections-director

As much as we love to talk about how we have "abolished" slavery in these here United States, there is an exception to the 13th Amendment — involuntary servitude is still legal if it's being used as punishment for a crime. In Arizona, as in many states, prisoners are required to work 40 hours a week for at little as 10 cents an hour, unless their health does not allow it (which is a very big possibility considering a federal judge just found the state's prison healthcare system to be "plainly grossly inadequate" and "unconstitutional" ).

Giving testimony on Thursday before the state Legislature's Joint Legislative Budget Committee about "a Request For Proposal for a contract to run the Florence West prison," Arizona Department of Corrections Director David Shinn explained that many Arizona communities would "collapse" without prison labor. [snip]

According to the ACLU, "charging misdemeanors as felonies, throwing thousands of people behind bars instead of offering drug treatment or diversion services, and abusing prosecutorial power to secure guilty pleas are just some of the tactics used that have led to Arizona’s exceedingly high rate of incarceration."

These things are all connected. They have to pay the private prisons, they have to fill the private prisons, they have to provide slave labor and in order to do that, they have to send a lot of people to prison for a very long time. The first private prisons started in Texas in 1985 and prison populations have since skyrocketed. That's not a coincidence.

[graph showing the rise in incarceration rates from 1925 to 2000]

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Sounds like cruel and unusual punishment.... Sogo Aug 2022 #1
Not to mention beyond stupid. nt GoodRaisin Aug 2022 #25
Sounds like a way to trap them in the criminal system Sanity Claws Aug 2022 #2
And in many states u don't regain voting rights until all $$ is pd okaawhatever Aug 2022 #15
What about prisons which have been privatized? thecrow Aug 2022 #3
For profit prison BS? Brainfodder Aug 2022 #4
Post removed Post removed Aug 2022 #19
NO! Pres, Obama did no such thing. Niagara Aug 2022 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2022 #21
You're asinine RW bullshit has already been debunked ages ago. Niagara Aug 2022 #22
How can someone possibly get a head of this. Biophilic Aug 2022 #5
How can this be constitutional? maxrandb Aug 2022 #8
All states, except, Hawaii, have fees. former9thward Aug 2022 #17
I had no idea and I'm just appalled. Biophilic Aug 2022 #18
If they don't pay, they can't vote? old guy Aug 2022 #6
So if they can't pay off that debt, what do they do? Throw them back in prison? 70sEraVet Aug 2022 #7
Then they should be paying them minimum wage when they're in prison. vsrazdem Aug 2022 #9
👆At least minimum wage. nt crickets Aug 2022 #11
A simple bankruptcy procedure should be allowed to abandon Hortensis Aug 2022 #10
This is insane. crickets Aug 2022 #12
This is so appalling and unfair. IcyPeas Aug 2022 #23
Thanks for posting that. crickets Aug 2022 #24
Rotten Ronnie and the Newt just keep on damaging. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #27
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2022 #13
That's over $90,000. a year! patphil Aug 2022 #14
Kicking for the evening crowd. nt crickets Aug 2022 #16
Inhumane and appalling berniesandersmittens Aug 2022 #26
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