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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 04:29 PM Aug 2022

One of our greatest mistakes after the Civil War was... [View all]

letting Southern slaveowners and revolutionaries off with a slap on the wrist. They should have been ground into the dust of history, rather than been celebrated as misled heros.

After WW2, the Allies, and many Gernans, understood that all vestiges of naziism had to be surprrssed. The Hitler salute, swastika, ss uniforms, etc all were illegal in very short order. Any support of Nazis or Holocaust denial was immediately put down. Germans, with our support, were almost as ruthless stamping it out as they were once in supporting it.

Thing is, there were still millions of Nazis in Germany and around the world, claiming theat they had a right to their views. They soon found out that they didn't. But it is a hell of whack a mole game trying to shut them up.

Here in the US, we never even tried. Whatever the fuck is a statue of Lee doing at West Point?

And so many of those statues were raised in the 1930s as a sop to the racist scumbags of the time. If we had properly ground them to dust after the civil war, we wouldn't have eliminated them, but we would have made current problems easier to deal with.

So, start the grinding now. There is no legal protection for any bloodthirsty asshole threatening a judge or properly elected politician.

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Been saying forever inthewind21 Aug 2022 #1
Lincoln was dead. yellowcanine Aug 2022 #4
Yeah, that was weird, to blame it on Abe Lincoln Hekate Aug 2022 #7
Did I say inthewind21 Aug 2022 #11
He. Was. Dead mcar Aug 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Aug 2022 #46
Yes inthewind21 Aug 2022 #10
Point is they were not let back into the Union until long after yellowcanine Aug 2022 #14
And ironically SCOTUS ruled in 1869 that they never left the union. CaptainTruth Aug 2022 #40
What good would that have done? LeftInTX Sep 2022 #62
It was Lincoln's decision and Gen. Grant agreed. Gaugamela Aug 2022 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2022 #22
the US had no legal right to ship anyone to Australia (pro tip, it was not US territory) Celerity Aug 2022 #31
I agree with you, and you're right in that it was Lincoln's decision. See Gaugamela Aug 2022 #34
The inflection point was the election of 1876 and Hayes's Corrupt Bargain. roamer65 Aug 2022 #2
Compromise of 1877 moondust Aug 2022 #13
Correct. roamer65 Aug 2022 #25
It could have been as simple as economic genxlib Aug 2022 #3
Yep - the 40 acres and a Mule existed JustAnotherGen Aug 2022 #12
40 Acres and a mule NEVER existed! Grins Aug 2022 #24
I think General Sherman gave out a few parcels personally but the plan was never funded. IrishAfricanAmerican Aug 2022 #27
And why wasn't it put into play JustAnotherGen Sep 2022 #51
It was the Oklahoma land Rush of 1889 ITAL Sep 2022 #52
One of our greatest mistakes was calling it a Civil War. lpbk2713 Aug 2022 #5
K&R, the "slap on the wrist" was the ending of Military Reconstruction Acts of 1867 !!! There was uponit7771 Aug 2022 #6
Correct. LastDemocratInSC Aug 2022 #30
Agreed. All the legislators, generals, authors of succession declarations... brush Aug 2022 #8
Why are we fighting the Civil War 150s past when we are facing the destruction of the country today? Chainfire Aug 2022 #9
Agreed. dameatball Aug 2022 #21
It's a continuation of the same conflict. Voltaire2 Sep 2022 #59
That is a heck of a stretch. Chainfire Sep 2022 #60
Did somebody mention A. Blinking? GreenWave Aug 2022 #15
... ITAL Aug 2022 #16
Echoes of our current inability to simply swat down TFG by simple majority. jaxexpat Aug 2022 #37
a knowledgeable and reasoned response stopdiggin Aug 2022 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author live love laugh Sep 2022 #48
Little America in Brazil Marthe48 Aug 2022 #17
Ah, Confederados. None of their descendants speak English any longer. jaxexpat Aug 2022 #38
I read about them years ago Marthe48 Aug 2022 #45
Military trials at Gettysburg for all responsible Ponietz Aug 2022 #19
And letting Nixon get away with Watergate mgardener Aug 2022 #20
there comes a point where grinding people to dust turns them into potent enemies.... getagrip_already Aug 2022 #23
or for beating up on Abraham Lincoln stopdiggin Aug 2022 #42
grinding into the dust worked really well after WW1... nt WarGamer Aug 2022 #26
You can't get tough with people unless you're willing to get a bloody nose yourself Shermann Aug 2022 #28
All leaders of the Confederacy should have been executed for treason. Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #29
Robert E. Lee's citizenship was restored by the Senate in 1974. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #36
The North was very generous... Snackshack Aug 2022 #33
True and the North gave up on Reconstruction and let the white supremacists take over again. scarletlib Aug 2022 #43
It was Andrew Johnson. Rhiannon12866 Sep 2022 #47
Andrew Johnson did not help things. scarletlib Sep 2022 #49
+1000! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #35
I absolutely agree. scarletlib Aug 2022 #41
Wasn't it an economic decision? nolabear Aug 2022 #44
Good insight. The South had a tremendous 'wealth' asvantage in 1860. empedocles Sep 2022 #50
:) Much truth here! There are always these calls to what in effect would be Hortensis Sep 2022 #53
Every time I hear "Civil War" today I think how nearsighted it is. nolabear Sep 2022 #55
+1000. The food and water we all require for life now come to us through Hortensis Sep 2022 #57
I dispute your point that reconstruction was a disaster replete with graft, etc. scarletlib Sep 2022 #54
The era was filled with graft ITAL Sep 2022 #58
Yes there was graft both North and South all during that period. scarletlib Sep 2022 #61
North could've kept resources and demonized the evil of slavery at the same time. They didn't and uponit7771 Sep 2022 #56
Grinding into the dust yes, executions no. anamnua Sep 2022 #63
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