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36. I may be tempting Godwin's law with this
Mon Nov 5, 2012, 05:56 AM
Nov 2012

but I think the comparison is appropriate:

The great majority of Nazis and other "good Germans" who were living and working within their comfort zone / familiar environment were said to be very nice, decent people... a pleasure to be around. Nazi authorities were purposely manipulating the population's perceptions through their emotions (and furiously talking out both sides of their mouths, mollifying people even as they escalated the atrocities). It's one of the tenets of fascism to cultivate order by expunging critical thinking / intellectuals from the general population, and getting them to respond purely on an emotional level.

Sad as it seems, your family are probably ignoring some extremely odd goings on in today's world because it doesn't fit the narrative purveyed by the people they unconsciously identify with (I'm guessing that your family is white Anglo-Saxon, Irish or Italian). And that narrative is given primacy in today's mass media because it meshes with the methods of an unfettered commercial press (corporate marketing and PR are constantly working on us psychologically to be impulsive and avoid discerning real facts so that decisions become more like unthinking reactions).

Also consider that anyone who commutes in a car for long hours each day (a very white, suburban routine) especially in crappy traffic will find at least the tone of the RW talk radio hosts to be appealing (i.e. they're at risk of becoming "roid ragers" because RW radio exploits drivers' general state of frustration in rush hour traffic, turning it into anger directed at scapegoats). Just about the only alternative in most places is NPR, which has the sort of content and presentation that tries to avoid clear messages and emotion.

Lastly, if your family really watches and likes Fox news it may be time to consider that much of what seems "nice" is actually the opposite of good.

All in all, I hope that most of the people reading this thread will agree that we need media reform in this country. They are leading us down a very dark path.

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It all goes back to the Fairness Doctrine that the Republicons cut out. The Wielding Truth Nov 2012 #1
Back when it was being cut out....... left on green only Nov 2012 #8
Gosh, I remember the FCC 'hearings' when we brought up all the evidence that it was wrong. freshwest Nov 2012 #17
And by Ronald Reagan specifically when he vetoed Congress' attempt to recodify it. ananda Nov 2012 #40
Yep. And the GOP will HELP YOU get that done, Volaris Nov 2012 #56
This post would be hilarious if it wasn't so frightening. Binders Keepers Nov 2012 #2
When I first began to become aware of hate radio...... left on green only Nov 2012 #3
it's nothing to do with intelligence or IQ. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #22
Right, thank you marions ghost Nov 2012 #43
It's actually very easy to figure out jwhitesj Nov 2012 #23
When my uncle, an intelligent, highly respected doctor marions ghost Nov 2012 #42
I don't think susceptibility to propaganda is related to IQ. Mariana Nov 2012 #47
I want to embrace your hypothesis.... left on green only Nov 2012 #48
A sense of belonging. Blanks Nov 2012 #53
Good point! And something that I hadn't considered..... left on green only Nov 2012 #57
Sounds like a lot of family get-togethers of mine. eqfan592 Nov 2012 #4
They are largely to blame for the divisiveness in this country. pointsoflight Nov 2012 #5
Massive brainwashing KT2000 Nov 2012 #6
My wife's family are just the same. It is very difficult to deal with it. Democratopia Nov 2012 #10
"same propaganda methods used in Nazi Germany." marions ghost Nov 2012 #44
bush said bin laden didn't interest him.. and the neoCons left Afghanistan to Bomb Iraq Cha Nov 2012 #7
It's truly sad.. ram2008 Nov 2012 #9
Next time point out that our military is 3x larger than the rest of the world combined. Initech Nov 2012 #11
Yes,and we TRIPLED DEFENSE SPENDING Since 1997! ErikJ Nov 2012 #13
I've been asking that question since day one! Initech Nov 2012 #46
could also ask if they want to give up social security to pay for military. grasswire Nov 2012 #14
Most Americans are immersed 24/7 in the R-wing propaganda propagated by the media at the behest snot Nov 2012 #12
see if you can lock out FauxNooz on their TV eShirl Nov 2012 #15
thanks great post n\t -LOKI -BAD FOR YA Nov 2012 #16
That's why I had to un-friend my brother from FB. countmyvote4real Nov 2012 #18
Sedition in media... Hulk Nov 2012 #19
I think you're beginning to understand the power of corporate propaganda. Selatius Nov 2012 #20
Thanks for posting this Britannica film KansDem Nov 2012 #34
I am old enough to remember a time when you could debate a republican Skittles Nov 2012 #21
+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2012 #24
well, yes exactly.That's the problem. I remember not long ago talking to a Republican and I went out Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 #31
THAT'S IT, DOUGLAS Skittles Nov 2012 #54
Fox News and talk radio. nt Vanje Nov 2012 #25
One of my best friends will not email me Norbert Nov 2012 #26
Just remember, Nate Silver is giving Obama an 86.3% chance of winning fasttense Nov 2012 #27
FOX News mainstreamed rightwing radio Adenoid_Hynkel Nov 2012 #28
No truer words, AH... Surya Gayatri Nov 2012 #32
The family reunion from hell...sounds like a dinner Surya Gayatri Nov 2012 #29
It's a real problem in my family, too. Granny M Nov 2012 #30
‘This Is The World Fox News Has Created’: Rachel Maddow on Interviews with Uninformed Protesters Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #33
I know sometimes we just have to laugh srichardson Nov 2012 #38
The mind-boggling nature of this circumvention of a fact-based universe gives me a massive Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #59
That's sad, but it's not their fault... Up2Late Nov 2012 #35
I can see it around DU Doctor_J Nov 2012 #50
I may be tempting Godwin's law with this cprise Nov 2012 #36
Um, the Prez is not responsible for the distribution of gas. That's the private sector. Scuba Nov 2012 #37
Yep. And, these dumbasses need to be reminded of what they were saying in 2008. GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #41
Indeed. A huge factor in gas shortage in Sandy's wake is b/c the Port of NY was shut down by Sandy. intheflow Nov 2012 #45
Facts mean absolutely nothing to Fox Nation Doctor_J Nov 2012 #52
Voluntary reeducation bubbles. nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #39
We may scrape out a win tomorrow Doctor_J Nov 2012 #49
"These are facts! It's all in the movies!" Baitball Blogger Nov 2012 #51
What I can't figure is, if Obama was going to destroy America why hasn't he? nolabear Nov 2012 #55
In 2008, they were predicting we wouldn't make it this far. Mariana Nov 2012 #58
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