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Traildogbob

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53. We need to look inside ourselves

Sat Oct 1, 2022, 11:43 AM

Oct 2022

My Hate for DeSatan, Gaetz. Rubio, Scott and other Florida politicians boils. It’s easy to let that spill over to Florida as a whole. Been guilty myself. But I live in District 11 in North Carolina. So people nationwide should be hating me Because this district gave the world Meadows for fucks sake, replaced him with Cawthorn, and the next batter up is just as sick. And my state is giving the SC the coming case of legislatures being able to overturn elections with no court authority to intervene. But these people many times are not elected without Tons of corruption. We also have many thousands of “Shoot to Kill trumpets” here, just like Florida.
But in this time of devastation, we gotta remember, there are many many good people in Florida that are just like us that need help. I sure hope if our mountains slide down on us from climate change flooding, that people do not say fuck you North Carolina for Meadows and Cawthorn.
Not how liberals are wired, why I am one.
Wish the very best to the good Floridians that need massive help. Not religious, but I believe their Jesus would not turn his back of people in need because an appointed leader is an asshole. Just saying.

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Hey all you DUers who think Florida residents deserve what happened because they chose to live here. [View all] Native Oct 2022 OP

This is awful. I'm not happy about any of it, in any county, anywhere. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #1

Some people are saying a lot more than that Sympthsical Oct 2022 #5

Way too many. Native Oct 2022 #7

some of us Conjuay Oct 2022 #50

People seem to love mcar Oct 2022 #16

I keep thinking of when the Hayward rips Sympthsical Oct 2022 #19

Towns get devastated by tornados every year mcar Oct 2022 #21

They are largely Red states too ... full of people who gleefully voted it so. Ligyron Oct 2022 #142

I seriously doubt they would. But if Hayward "ripped", say, Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #71

I think that's totally fair commentary Sympthsical Oct 2022 #83

I agree. Those coastal homes should be considered lindysalsagal Oct 2022 #102

We agree. It isn't controversial. But it isn't stopping either. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #151

Thank you for this. Native Oct 2022 #55

My perspective The Bopper Oct 2022 #100

Welcome to DU, The Bopper! calimary Oct 2022 #137

I don't claim to speak for anybody else here other than myself. calimary Oct 2022 #136

What has long been inevitable is now actually happening. But people are still being Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #152

I have tried to call up some sympathy Polly Hennessey Oct 2022 #22

I see it too and it is disgusting. Please consider that not everything is as it appears mahina Oct 2022 #23

Except they are longtime DUers saying this obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #59

Ah well then shame on them. Also, mahina Oct 2022 #115

I have tried to call up some sympathy Polly Hennessey Oct 2022 #37

I understand hard-heartedness against Florida but NOT against the residents. quaint Oct 2022 #86

And attack good DUers obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #56

What's MAL? ShazzieB Oct 2022 #81

Mar A Lago. dchill Oct 2022 #87

OH. Thanks! ShazzieB Oct 2022 #108

I puzzled it for a few days, myself! dchill Oct 2022 #117

This Floridian thanks you for your observation. CaptainTruth Oct 2022 #68

That is shitty. DeSantis deserves it 100%. But BigDemVoter Oct 2022 #138

I don't feel that way at all, the children, for one thing had no choice where they live Walleye Oct 2022 #2

Pretty much every part of the country is prone to some sort of natural disaster. LonePirate Oct 2022 #3

Exactly. There is no safe place. You basically pick your poison at this point. Native Oct 2022 #6

I had relatives in Lake Placid Fl. twice they had heavy damage over the years Historic NY Oct 2022 #70

In addition, some of the worst damage from winds was along the Lake Wales Ridge csziggy Oct 2022 #111

Nobody deserves to have their home destroyed. No matter where you live, Ocelot II Oct 2022 #4

The easiest way to prevent rebuilding is to have FEMA Phoenix61 Oct 2022 #8

Florida governmental decisions over the past thirty years have been a nightmare. Baitball Blogger Oct 2022 #9

That's the frustrating part. yardwork Oct 2022 #118

Contempt helps people feel like their choices are what have kept them safe. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2022 #10

So well stated. hamsterjill Oct 2022 #18

Well put. It gives folks the illusion that they have some control over these matters. We don't. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #29

This nt Tree-Hugger Oct 2022 #30

A couple of problems with this Doc Sportello Oct 2022 #11

I wasn't writing an article for a newspaper. Sorry you have "issues" with my post. Native Oct 2022 #17

No one has issues with your post. Polly Hennessey Oct 2022 #34

Are you also one of those people who posted about how you're smarter than the average Floridian Native Oct 2022 #38

You keep taking shots at posters on DU rather than officials who are to blame Doc Sportello Oct 2022 #132

How wonderful for you mcar Oct 2022 #45

Thank you for that. Treefrog Oct 2022 #143

What in the world is wrong with you?! obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #60

I'm not the one with issues Doc Sportello Oct 2022 #131

Yeah, you kind of are. Treefrog Oct 2022 #144

Lee County had public shelters available Mariana Oct 2022 #35

Yup, they had shelters, they just didn't bother getting their mandatory evacuation alert out in time Native Oct 2022 #40

Yes, they are definitely responsible for that, and should lose their jobs. Mariana Oct 2022 #48

Most shelters also do not allow pets obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #61

That seems to be changing, actually. I watched over 10 hours of Hurricane Ian coverage, and catbyte Oct 2022 #67

Yes, the shelter change came after Katrina when so many stayed home for pets. We txwhitedove Oct 2022 #99

As a Texan, it saddens me when one part of the country hamsterjill Oct 2022 #12

Of course you do not deserve it. MuseRider Oct 2022 #13

Anyone who lives on the water should know the dangers. Srkdqltr Oct 2022 #14

Anyone who lives in the Midwest should know the dangers mcar Oct 2022 #20

That's true life is a crapshoot wherever you live. Fire, wind,water. Srkdqltr Oct 2022 #25

What a nightmare! mcar Oct 2022 #15

They're there. Do you mean the media didn't offer alternates? Hortensis Oct 2022 #24

No, 75 was open on our drive down there. A creek rose up over a portion later in the day. Native Oct 2022 #33

12 hours! My bad, I forgot how much of that area is wetlands. Hortensis Oct 2022 #72

how long *should* it have taken you to get back to your house or how long orleans Oct 2022 #112

Are there alternative routes? Only one I know is 19 and that is closer to the water. Srkdqltr Oct 2022 #26

41, but that was at least partially underwater mcar Oct 2022 #27

I don't think that...we have horrible tornados and at times floods in Ohio... Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #28

I75 last night mcar Oct 2022 #31

Folks in CA, CT, NJ & NY don't mind bailing out Florida, as we do it each and every year. TheBlackAdder Oct 2022 #32

I remind everybody the results of the governor election in 2018. jimfields33 Oct 2022 #36

Florida hasn't elected a Democratic governor since 1998. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2022 #54

Almost all those people moving here are GOP obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #65

I said nothing of the sort. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2022 #133

Charlies Crist was governor: January 2, 2007 - January 4, 2011 LeftInTX Oct 2022 #147

As a Republican. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2022 #148

Oops..my bad..Thought he was a Democrat LeftInTX Oct 2022 #149

No worries. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2022 #150

It boggles my mind too. Native Oct 2022 #58

Yup, we are gerrymandered to hell on every level here obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #62

I don't know a single Floridian who resents their tax dollars going to help those Native Oct 2022 #47

When a state is chronically running a deficit where it needs yearly bailouts, whose tax dollars? TheBlackAdder Oct 2022 #73

We currently have a 21.8 billion dollar budget surplus. What am i missing? Native Oct 2022 #89

Then why do the Feds have to bail them out by sending them money every year? TheBlackAdder Oct 2022 #107

+1 TeamProg Oct 2022 #124

Many FL congressfolks voted Aye on Sandy relief mcar Oct 2022 #49

All of this JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #140

It's one thing to criticise government Tree-Hugger Oct 2022 #39

i am so thankful that you were able to get your relatives out dawn5651 Oct 2022 #41

Not to mention the unpredictability of it all. You got a taste of it with Fiona. Native Oct 2022 #52

My cousins evacuated from St. Pete and went inland mcar Oct 2022 #75

I'm hearing so many stories like this. Native Oct 2022 #80

And remember, just 4-5 days earlier, mcar Oct 2022 #82

I have family in Florida and I live on an island in the Caribbean malaise Oct 2022 #42

Thank you. I agree. fightforfreedom Oct 2022 #98

I agree and the same is true of my state's coast. yardwork Oct 2022 #121

+1 TeamProg Oct 2022 #125

my ONLY complaint is HAB911 Oct 2022 #43

I have issues with that too mcar Oct 2022 #77

It's Freedumb in action! HAB911 Oct 2022 #129

Some people lack compassion iemanja Oct 2022 #44

I wish all Floridians well. Humans can be weird. twodogsbarking Oct 2022 #46

Thank you obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #51

We need to look inside ourselves Traildogbob Oct 2022 #53

I am sorry to hear that moose65 Oct 2022 #57

So now will the state DownriverDem Oct 2022 #63

Yes. That's standard. Native Oct 2022 #64

Gee snowybirdie Oct 2022 #66

I sure hope no DUers believe Florida residents deserved the destruction of Ian - come on folks, DU iluvtennis Oct 2022 #69

People don't deserve it but people have been warned about this for over 20 years Kaleva Oct 2022 #74

People are still moving west mcar Oct 2022 #78

Actually, the winters are predicted to become more mild Kaleva Oct 2022 #90

And homes are still being built mcar Oct 2022 #91

There's quite a few climate change deniers in this country and world Kaleva Oct 2022 #92

For sure. Nt mcar Oct 2022 #146

I don't blame people who live in harm's way Warpy Oct 2022 #76

This +1000! mcar Oct 2022 #79

& the mangroves that were destroyed! I saw one poster talking about how the Carolinas are different Native Oct 2022 #85

That might have been true in some areas 50 years ago Warpy Oct 2022 #114

I'm in NC and it's not my observation that we're doing any better. yardwork Oct 2022 #122

I agree with this 1000%. ShazzieB Oct 2022 #101

We side eye and criticize responsible parties BECAUSE of the suffering. yardwork Oct 2022 #123

As a Floridian, let me say... CaptainTruth Oct 2022 #84

Native............. Upthevibe Oct 2022 #88

Some of them have been called out, and many of the posts you see here are by those who Native Oct 2022 #93

Where are these comments? Wibly Oct 2022 #94

I didn't bookmark them, many are comments sprinkled into general posts about Ian. Native Oct 2022 #96

i feel for the people of FL barbtries Oct 2022 #95

I'm a native Floridian. My mother dated Florida Governor Graham (D) in high school Native Oct 2022 #103

i have an answer barbtries Oct 2022 #106

I don't think anyone deserves that. Snackshack Oct 2022 #97

+1 TeamProg Oct 2022 #126

I (we) live in Wild Fire Country."Deserve" it? I haven't read that here. 'Should have expected it'? TeamProg Oct 2022 #104

When people say they have no compassion for and don't feel sorry for Floridians impacted because Native Oct 2022 #105

You said "Deserve it", which is cruel. I haven't read that here. TeamProg Oct 2022 #110

I regret deleting a post from earlier today. I should have fought back against the lies, attacks. fightforfreedom Oct 2022 #120

I remember that post. Butterflylady Oct 2022 #145

Thank you for your post. fightforfreedom Oct 2022 #109

How terrifying. Nobody deserves to suffer from natural disasters. yardwork Oct 2022 #113

Prove any DUer said that treestar Oct 2022 #116

+1 TeamProg Oct 2022 #128

Noble attempt but the willful ignorance on here TheBeam19 Oct 2022 #119

K and r... BlackSkimmer Oct 2022 #127

Yup, and I'm still asked to "prove it." Gah. Native Oct 2022 #134

Kick BlackSkimmer Oct 2022 #130

I wish my MIL would have evacuated Deep State Witch Oct 2022 #135

I don't wish disaster on Floridians... Happy Hoosier Oct 2022 #139

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it" -Tom Reagan, Miller's Crossing maxsolomon Oct 2022 #141

This thread's way too long, so I'll just leave this right here... Iggo Oct 2022 #153

Glad to see more people are commenting on shit posts like this. Native Oct 2022 #154

That OP is way out of line. Niagara Oct 2022 #155