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CaptainTruth

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84. As a Floridian, let me say...

Sat Oct 1, 2022, 12:29 PM

Oct 2022

...I've lived in the Midwest, California, & now Florida, & every place has its hazards. You need to be smart & prepare appropriately, that's just common sense. It doesn't require pontificating, ranting, or passing judgement on the decisions & lives of others. (Please, leave the judgement & disapproval of others to the right-wingers, that's their specialty.)

In the Midwest I had friends who were seriously injured in car crashes on icy roads, & 1 person I know was killed due to icy winter roads. Over the years tornados caused serious damage in areas around me.

In California I rode out earthquakes every year, mostly small, but I was in San Francisco during the Loma Prieta quake & that was damn scary. I knew a person who was crushed to death as they where getting into their car when a brick wall collapsed on them.

In Florida, with hurricanes, at least I have several days warning & an idea about how bad it could be. I will take that any day over earthquakes that strike with no warning, or tornados that arise within minutes. Needless to say, I don't know anyone in Florida who's been injured or killed while driving on icy Florida roads. And yes, if you choose to live in Florida you need to be prepared, & there are a plethora of resources to help you do that. I have also found the folks in my area to be happy to lend a hand & help out their neighbors, which was not always the case in other places I've lived.

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Hey all you DUers who think Florida residents deserve what happened because they chose to live here. [View all] Native Oct 2022 OP

This is awful. I'm not happy about any of it, in any county, anywhere. onecaliberal Oct 2022 #1

Some people are saying a lot more than that Sympthsical Oct 2022 #5

Way too many. Native Oct 2022 #7

some of us Conjuay Oct 2022 #50

People seem to love mcar Oct 2022 #16

I keep thinking of when the Hayward rips Sympthsical Oct 2022 #19

Towns get devastated by tornados every year mcar Oct 2022 #21

They are largely Red states too ... full of people who gleefully voted it so. Ligyron Oct 2022 #142

I seriously doubt they would. But if Hayward "ripped", say, Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #71

I think that's totally fair commentary Sympthsical Oct 2022 #83

I agree. Those coastal homes should be considered lindysalsagal Oct 2022 #102

We agree. It isn't controversial. But it isn't stopping either. Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #151

Thank you for this. Native Oct 2022 #55

My perspective The Bopper Oct 2022 #100

Welcome to DU, The Bopper! calimary Oct 2022 #137

I don't claim to speak for anybody else here other than myself. calimary Oct 2022 #136

What has long been inevitable is now actually happening. But people are still being Scrivener7 Oct 2022 #152

I have tried to call up some sympathy Polly Hennessey Oct 2022 #22

I see it too and it is disgusting. Please consider that not everything is as it appears mahina Oct 2022 #23

Except they are longtime DUers saying this obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #59

Ah well then shame on them. Also, mahina Oct 2022 #115

I have tried to call up some sympathy Polly Hennessey Oct 2022 #37

I understand hard-heartedness against Florida but NOT against the residents. quaint Oct 2022 #86

And attack good DUers obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #56

What's MAL? ShazzieB Oct 2022 #81

Mar A Lago. dchill Oct 2022 #87

OH. Thanks! ShazzieB Oct 2022 #108

I puzzled it for a few days, myself! dchill Oct 2022 #117

This Floridian thanks you for your observation. CaptainTruth Oct 2022 #68

That is shitty. DeSantis deserves it 100%. But BigDemVoter Oct 2022 #138

I don't feel that way at all, the children, for one thing had no choice where they live Walleye Oct 2022 #2

Pretty much every part of the country is prone to some sort of natural disaster. LonePirate Oct 2022 #3

Exactly. There is no safe place. You basically pick your poison at this point. Native Oct 2022 #6

I had relatives in Lake Placid Fl. twice they had heavy damage over the years Historic NY Oct 2022 #70

In addition, some of the worst damage from winds was along the Lake Wales Ridge csziggy Oct 2022 #111

Nobody deserves to have their home destroyed. No matter where you live, Ocelot II Oct 2022 #4

The easiest way to prevent rebuilding is to have FEMA Phoenix61 Oct 2022 #8

Florida governmental decisions over the past thirty years have been a nightmare. Baitball Blogger Oct 2022 #9

That's the frustrating part. yardwork Oct 2022 #118

Contempt helps people feel like their choices are what have kept them safe. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2022 #10

So well stated. hamsterjill Oct 2022 #18

Well put. It gives folks the illusion that they have some control over these matters. We don't. Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #29

This nt Tree-Hugger Oct 2022 #30

A couple of problems with this Doc Sportello Oct 2022 #11

I wasn't writing an article for a newspaper. Sorry you have "issues" with my post. Native Oct 2022 #17

No one has issues with your post. Polly Hennessey Oct 2022 #34

Are you also one of those people who posted about how you're smarter than the average Floridian Native Oct 2022 #38

You keep taking shots at posters on DU rather than officials who are to blame Doc Sportello Oct 2022 #132

How wonderful for you mcar Oct 2022 #45

Thank you for that. Treefrog Oct 2022 #143

What in the world is wrong with you?! obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #60

I'm not the one with issues Doc Sportello Oct 2022 #131

Yeah, you kind of are. Treefrog Oct 2022 #144

Lee County had public shelters available Mariana Oct 2022 #35

Yup, they had shelters, they just didn't bother getting their mandatory evacuation alert out in time Native Oct 2022 #40

Yes, they are definitely responsible for that, and should lose their jobs. Mariana Oct 2022 #48

Most shelters also do not allow pets obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #61

That seems to be changing, actually. I watched over 10 hours of Hurricane Ian coverage, and catbyte Oct 2022 #67

Yes, the shelter change came after Katrina when so many stayed home for pets. We txwhitedove Oct 2022 #99

As a Texan, it saddens me when one part of the country hamsterjill Oct 2022 #12

Of course you do not deserve it. MuseRider Oct 2022 #13

Anyone who lives on the water should know the dangers. Srkdqltr Oct 2022 #14

Anyone who lives in the Midwest should know the dangers mcar Oct 2022 #20

That's true life is a crapshoot wherever you live. Fire, wind,water. Srkdqltr Oct 2022 #25

What a nightmare! mcar Oct 2022 #15

They're there. Do you mean the media didn't offer alternates? Hortensis Oct 2022 #24

No, 75 was open on our drive down there. A creek rose up over a portion later in the day. Native Oct 2022 #33

12 hours! My bad, I forgot how much of that area is wetlands. Hortensis Oct 2022 #72

how long *should* it have taken you to get back to your house or how long orleans Oct 2022 #112

Are there alternative routes? Only one I know is 19 and that is closer to the water. Srkdqltr Oct 2022 #26

41, but that was at least partially underwater mcar Oct 2022 #27

I don't think that...we have horrible tornados and at times floods in Ohio... Demsrule86 Oct 2022 #28

I75 last night mcar Oct 2022 #31

Folks in CA, CT, NJ & NY don't mind bailing out Florida, as we do it each and every year. TheBlackAdder Oct 2022 #32

I remind everybody the results of the governor election in 2018. jimfields33 Oct 2022 #36

Florida hasn't elected a Democratic governor since 1998. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2022 #54

Almost all those people moving here are GOP obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #65

I said nothing of the sort. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2022 #133

Charlies Crist was governor: January 2, 2007 - January 4, 2011 LeftInTX Oct 2022 #147

As a Republican. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2022 #148

Oops..my bad..Thought he was a Democrat LeftInTX Oct 2022 #149

No worries. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2022 #150

It boggles my mind too. Native Oct 2022 #58

Yup, we are gerrymandered to hell on every level here obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #62

I don't know a single Floridian who resents their tax dollars going to help those Native Oct 2022 #47

When a state is chronically running a deficit where it needs yearly bailouts, whose tax dollars? TheBlackAdder Oct 2022 #73

We currently have a 21.8 billion dollar budget surplus. What am i missing? Native Oct 2022 #89

Then why do the Feds have to bail them out by sending them money every year? TheBlackAdder Oct 2022 #107

+1 TeamProg Oct 2022 #124

Many FL congressfolks voted Aye on Sandy relief mcar Oct 2022 #49

All of this JustAnotherGen Oct 2022 #140

It's one thing to criticise government Tree-Hugger Oct 2022 #39

i am so thankful that you were able to get your relatives out dawn5651 Oct 2022 #41

Not to mention the unpredictability of it all. You got a taste of it with Fiona. Native Oct 2022 #52

My cousins evacuated from St. Pete and went inland mcar Oct 2022 #75

I'm hearing so many stories like this. Native Oct 2022 #80

And remember, just 4-5 days earlier, mcar Oct 2022 #82

I have family in Florida and I live on an island in the Caribbean malaise Oct 2022 #42

Thank you. I agree. fightforfreedom Oct 2022 #98

I agree and the same is true of my state's coast. yardwork Oct 2022 #121

+1 TeamProg Oct 2022 #125

my ONLY complaint is HAB911 Oct 2022 #43

I have issues with that too mcar Oct 2022 #77

It's Freedumb in action! HAB911 Oct 2022 #129

Some people lack compassion iemanja Oct 2022 #44

I wish all Floridians well. Humans can be weird. twodogsbarking Oct 2022 #46

Thank you obamanut2012 Oct 2022 #51

We need to look inside ourselves Traildogbob Oct 2022 #53

I am sorry to hear that moose65 Oct 2022 #57

So now will the state DownriverDem Oct 2022 #63

Yes. That's standard. Native Oct 2022 #64

Gee snowybirdie Oct 2022 #66

I sure hope no DUers believe Florida residents deserved the destruction of Ian - come on folks, DU iluvtennis Oct 2022 #69

People don't deserve it but people have been warned about this for over 20 years Kaleva Oct 2022 #74

People are still moving west mcar Oct 2022 #78

Actually, the winters are predicted to become more mild Kaleva Oct 2022 #90

And homes are still being built mcar Oct 2022 #91

There's quite a few climate change deniers in this country and world Kaleva Oct 2022 #92

For sure. Nt mcar Oct 2022 #146

I don't blame people who live in harm's way Warpy Oct 2022 #76

This +1000! mcar Oct 2022 #79

& the mangroves that were destroyed! I saw one poster talking about how the Carolinas are different Native Oct 2022 #85

That might have been true in some areas 50 years ago Warpy Oct 2022 #114

I'm in NC and it's not my observation that we're doing any better. yardwork Oct 2022 #122

I agree with this 1000%. ShazzieB Oct 2022 #101

We side eye and criticize responsible parties BECAUSE of the suffering. yardwork Oct 2022 #123

As a Floridian, let me say... CaptainTruth Oct 2022 #84

Native............. Upthevibe Oct 2022 #88

Some of them have been called out, and many of the posts you see here are by those who Native Oct 2022 #93

Where are these comments? Wibly Oct 2022 #94

I didn't bookmark them, many are comments sprinkled into general posts about Ian. Native Oct 2022 #96

i feel for the people of FL barbtries Oct 2022 #95

I'm a native Floridian. My mother dated Florida Governor Graham (D) in high school Native Oct 2022 #103

i have an answer barbtries Oct 2022 #106

I don't think anyone deserves that. Snackshack Oct 2022 #97

+1 TeamProg Oct 2022 #126

I (we) live in Wild Fire Country."Deserve" it? I haven't read that here. 'Should have expected it'? TeamProg Oct 2022 #104

When people say they have no compassion for and don't feel sorry for Floridians impacted because Native Oct 2022 #105

You said "Deserve it", which is cruel. I haven't read that here. TeamProg Oct 2022 #110

I regret deleting a post from earlier today. I should have fought back against the lies, attacks. fightforfreedom Oct 2022 #120

I remember that post. Butterflylady Oct 2022 #145

Thank you for your post. fightforfreedom Oct 2022 #109

How terrifying. Nobody deserves to suffer from natural disasters. yardwork Oct 2022 #113

Prove any DUer said that treestar Oct 2022 #116

+1 TeamProg Oct 2022 #128

Noble attempt but the willful ignorance on here TheBeam19 Oct 2022 #119

K and r... BlackSkimmer Oct 2022 #127

Yup, and I'm still asked to "prove it." Gah. Native Oct 2022 #134

Kick BlackSkimmer Oct 2022 #130

I wish my MIL would have evacuated Deep State Witch Oct 2022 #135

I don't wish disaster on Floridians... Happy Hoosier Oct 2022 #139

"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it" -Tom Reagan, Miller's Crossing maxsolomon Oct 2022 #141

This thread's way too long, so I'll just leave this right here... Iggo Oct 2022 #153

Glad to see more people are commenting on shit posts like this. Native Oct 2022 #154

That OP is way out of line. Niagara Oct 2022 #155