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Volaris

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38. It could take less time if the subject is broached in a way

Tue Nov 6, 2012, 11:08 AM

Nov 2012

that they can relate to. Religion is it's own weird language sometimes, and a lot of it is in code, like an encryption key. I learned that it works best to ask questions that relate their FAITH to their RELIGION, and when there is a discrepency beteeen the 2, ask them to explain WHY. If you can get them thinking about Religion in terms of the 3rd deminsion of Faith, it might help. It's how I got a conservative friend of mine to stop caring about what gay people do, and vote strictly as a Right-Libertarian (taxes bad, freedom good, etc.)

It's more of a challenge now to convince him that Romney's an Ass, but he didn't vote for Santorum in the Primary, and that means one less important issue for us to waste time on with them.

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Do you know anyone voting Romney? [View all] quinnox Nov 2012 OP

Yes, a number of them gollygee Nov 2012 #1

Yeah, that's the kind of Con I know... Volaris Nov 2012 #25

i only know repugs. though, last election my father voted obama. i think he is angry and gonna seabeyond Nov 2012 #2

I wonder about people like your father... Volaris Nov 2012 #36

he is really pissed about the auto buy out. he has been a business owner and head of major corp all seabeyond Nov 2012 #54

That would only make sense if it was a "bail" out, not a "buy" out. ieoeja Nov 2012 #94

interesting. thanks. i do not know all the ends and outs, but way back when seabeyond Nov 2012 #97

Sure. Some of my relatives are. MineralMan Nov 2012 #3

Me too Kilgore Nov 2012 #4

I know several like that. Then the gun toting R's who will never vote for a D, know them too... NotThisTime Nov 2012 #5

There are also "gun toting" D's that will never vote for a R. I know a ton of them. nt rDigital Nov 2012 #59

I live in a swing district here in Brooklyn so some of my neighbors like Romney. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #6

Yes Mira Nov 2012 #7

We must have the same in-laws...lol onecent Nov 2012 #8

Do we have the same kids??? Grammy23 Nov 2012 #31

It could take less time if the subject is broached in a way Volaris Nov 2012 #38

Most everyone I know claim to be Democrats but have voted Republican doc03 Nov 2012 #9

Sounds like you need to know some new people. nt rDigital Nov 2012 #60

Wow! You know a lot of racists! Time to think about moving. Auntie Bush Nov 2012 #64

That's eastern Ohio, weird 2/3 registerd Democrat union people that are doc03 Nov 2012 #100

Too damn many txdemsftw Nov 2012 #10

Two neighbors ewagner Nov 2012 #11

LOL..."Damn I'm smart.. Volaris Nov 2012 #41

Yes, a RW religious Fox News limbaugh relative who hates LGBT folks. nt Zorra Nov 2012 #12

I don't know anyone who is voting for Romney... Hepburn Nov 2012 #13

Ask her how she likes her "socialist" streets, postal service, police & fire service, state and rDigital Nov 2012 #61

Yep... Hepburn Nov 2012 #80

Ilke my socialism to be equal with my capitalism. Checks & Balances. : ) nt rDigital Nov 2012 #84

Yes. peace13 Nov 2012 #14

several in my family and coworkers n/t Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #15

One, in particular, Stargazer09 Nov 2012 #16

My neighbor with the "empty chair" display on her front lawn. mikeytherat Nov 2012 #17

My former boss. School principal. (What a shock, right?) Smarmie Doofus Nov 2012 #18

Dyed-in-the-wool Democrat, here. Me and all my friends and family are Liberal Democrats. ywcachieve Nov 2012 #19

Yes LP2K12 Nov 2012 #20

my best friend from high school NMlib Nov 2012 #21

My relative and a few friends nmbluesky Nov 2012 #22

Unfortunately, I do. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #23

The fundies have their own interpretation of that storm. Also, they say if Obama wins, its.... northoftheborder Nov 2012 #32

What is their interpretation? Satan? Indpndnt Nov 2012 #98

Indiana relatives Prism Nov 2012 #24

Are you kidding? I'm in OKLAHOMA!! lmbradford Nov 2012 #26

Fight the good fight, especially if you are outnumbered. nt rDigital Nov 2012 #62

My conservative brother in California. WI_DEM Nov 2012 #27

My in-laws are split between Romney and Jesus. frogmarch Nov 2012 #28

Yes - religious conservatives. Bunch of them. Beyond reason. Their core beliefs involved. northoftheborder Nov 2012 #29

lots of 'em. in fact, i'm surprised (and scared) at how many i know. ellenfl Nov 2012 #30

Most Christians I know are voting Romney upi402 Nov 2012 #33

Whats funny to me about that, is that most of the "Christians" I know Volaris Nov 2012 #45

True, they'd HATE that peace-nic socialist hippie upi402 Nov 2012 #46

Take it easy on the "gun nuts" there's a metric ton of us that are voting for President Obama :) nt rDigital Nov 2012 #63

True. Just told my kid that most gun nuts I know are really cool upi402 Nov 2012 #65

All of my racist, fundy, gun nut cousins... luvs2sing Nov 2012 #34

I'm afraid so. ananda Nov 2012 #35

Probably 30% of my clients are voting for Romney, maybe more. grantcart Nov 2012 #37

ex gf just texted me she voted for R, unbelievable Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #39

A handful of my Facebook friends are. Mad_Dem_X Nov 2012 #40

an aunt and her side of the family newspeak Nov 2012 #44

No, but I suspect a few co-workers... KansDem Nov 2012 #42

Nope DemKittyNC Nov 2012 #43

Sure but I live in TX - TBF Nov 2012 #47

Yup WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #48

I always bet a pizza with the local pharmacist. nt rDigital Nov 2012 #68

Living in rural TX, it's easier to count the number of people I know voting Dem. PATXgirl Nov 2012 #49

Several. ThatsMyBarack Nov 2012 #50

Lots of them spinbaby Nov 2012 #51

Oh yea ... the guy can't give one reason to vote for Romney. JoePhilly Nov 2012 #52

Yeah, my Dad hogwyld Nov 2012 #53

My entire friggin' family minus my sister & brother-in-law... a la izquierda Nov 2012 #55

Sadly, yes I do LibertyLover Nov 2012 #56

Of course clyrc Nov 2012 #57

Yes, several of them. Arkansas Granny Nov 2012 #58

Yes, the entire side of my wife's family. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #66

Unfortunately, yes. Too many. mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #67

My parents chloes1 Nov 2012 #69

Everyone in my (extended) family except for my parents and sister. Smuckies Nov 2012 #70

A few coworkers who have decided to treat this as a referendum on Obamacare. Iggo Nov 2012 #71

No, thankfully. Arkana Nov 2012 #72

I live in a red area and see lots of Willard signs. City Lights Nov 2012 #73

Damn near everyone I work with mick063 Nov 2012 #74

Nobody in my family or close circle of friends would ever vote for him ........... marmar Nov 2012 #75

Yes, and a number of them are people who I considered "family" at one point in my life. EnviroBat Nov 2012 #76

I'm In The Same Boat HangOnKids Nov 2012 #78

My Iraq vet Birther cousin. Odin2005 Nov 2012 #77

I don't know any Republicans period. Jamaal510 Nov 2012 #79

My husband - he held his nose and voted Romney LeftInTX Nov 2012 #81

Yes nachosgrande Nov 2012 #82

Several people. LibraLiz1973 Nov 2012 #83

The idiot lady that lives behind me... one_voice Nov 2012 #85

Yes, I have quite a few Facebook "friends" voting for Romney Blue_In_AK Nov 2012 #86

Yes, sadly. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #87

The ones I know are voting against Obama Shrek Nov 2012 #88

I know people on his campaign so yes Johonny Nov 2012 #89

Yeah, my sister and her husband. RebelOne Nov 2012 #90

My Mormon brother and his five adult children rhiannon55 Nov 2012 #91

Are you kidding? EVERYONE I know is voting Romney Courtesy Flush Nov 2012 #92

Yes I live in TX Dem_4_Life Nov 2012 #93

Hello? I live in SC. Everybody is voting for Romney. renie408 Nov 2012 #95

Yes StarryNite Nov 2012 #96

a few greens and non voters. same thing nt ecstatic Nov 2012 #99

I've heard of one woman who said she hope Romney beats the "chocolate bunny". Kaleva Nov 2012 #101