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H2O Man

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Sat Nov 12, 2022, 01:09 PM Nov 2022

The War Ain't Over [View all]

"In the midst of chaos, there is also opportunity.” -- Sun Tzu


If I consider both sides of my family, I've had relatives fight in every war from the Revolution to Vietnam. Most of those I knew did not talk about their experiences. My maternal grandfather, however, would tell my brothers and II about WW2.

Pappy had been training to be a minister, he said, but found the various sins he learned about more attractive. Eventually, he entered the military, got out, and then re-enlisted for WW2. Being older than most, he was called "Pappy." He became a drill instructor, and then went into combat. He would suffer serious injuries, but continue to serve in occupying the Pacific theater as the war ended.

The Pappy I knew was not child-friendly. I knew he had worked in construction, and was a union organizer and activist. He thought that strong workers' unions were the key to preserving democracy in what was then the modern age. It was only later when my brothers and I helped him tend his massive gardens, while consuming massive quantities of beer, that we really got to know him.

We asked him about being a drill instructor. He said that it was essential to weed out those who were "weak," because they were the ones that got everyone killed in combat. And that those few who died during basic training on that island had died for their country.

Pappy's concern for this country before he died was of what he saw as an internal threat, of the same nature as that of he fought against in Europe in WW2. He loved history and politics, and was certain that the time would come when this threat would rise to the surface in the United States. He said that citizzens participating in democracy was the antidote. That if enough patriotic people were active participants, they would outnumber those posing the threats

It wasn't until the final weeks of his long life that I became aware of how haunted Pappy was from having to kill (or be killed) in WW2. I realized that it isn't just those, for example, that throw themselves on the enemy's grenade that give their lives to protect others. Whatever life Pappy may have had if duty had not called was sacrificed. And that is the higher meaning of "greater love no person has, than to lay down their lives for others."

It's that willingness to go beyond one's first nature, to give up the security we find in our daily lives ..... to not only do more, but to be more. Now, please think about that in the context of today. A week ago, how many people here recognized the threat of fascism in America? Saw a growing number of republicans channeling their inner nazi? Democracy stopped many of them in their tracks, on local, state, and federal levels. But the threat remains, despite being stifled at the voting booth.

The threat remains. Right now, the single most important point where we must apply positive pressure is in Georgia. We do not have the luxury of sitting back, content that we did much better than the "experts" had predicted. Every single one of us can contribute, in some manner, to make sure that Raphael Warnock defeats Herschel Walker in their December run-off. As a community -- as a country -- we need to rise up to that level.

Keep on fighting the Good Fight!
H2O Man

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The War Ain't Over [View all] H2O Man Nov 2022 OP
K&R... Docreed2003 Nov 2022 #1
Thank you! H2O Man Nov 2022 #2
As ever Easterncedar Nov 2022 #3
Thank you very much! H2O Man Nov 2022 #4
I hope the results spur folks Easterncedar Nov 2022 #5
Exactly. H2O Man Nov 2022 #15
The reason for more Rs and Independents -- messages from billionaires' media conglomerates Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #25
Right. H2O Man Nov 2022 #27
Yes! Easterncedar Nov 2022 #29
Bookmarked and wise words. Boomerproud Nov 2022 #7
Thanks! H2O Man Nov 2022 #16
Agreed. It will not be an easy win, but it is very winnable. SYFROYH Nov 2022 #6
One thing I hadn't considered... Septua Nov 2022 #14
That will probably help some. On the other hand UGA is still #1 in football this year SYFROYH Nov 2022 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author SYFROYH Nov 2022 #39
Great! H2O Man Nov 2022 #17
very well stated! big lessons ahead & we really need your steady, clear insights, H20 man! bluboid Nov 2022 #8
Thank you! H2O Man Nov 2022 #19
K & R malaise Nov 2022 #9
Thanks! H2O Man Nov 2022 #20
K & R malaise Nov 2022 #10
Very good post. OldBaldy1701E Nov 2022 #11
Very good! H2O Man Nov 2022 #21
Just donated $25 to Raphael's Founders Group for The Dec GA Runoff. Tommymac Nov 2022 #12
Thank you! H2O Man Nov 2022 #22
You are very welcome! Tommymac Nov 2022 #26
I think that H2O Man Nov 2022 #28
Thanks for the eloquent reminder H2O Man. KPN Nov 2022 #13
Thanks! H2O Man Nov 2022 #23
Great story on its own BaronChocula Nov 2022 #18
Oh, thank you! H2O Man Nov 2022 #24
Fascism and the dark forces agains democracy never completely disappear dlk Nov 2022 #30
Right. H2O Man Nov 2022 #31
He was right dlk Nov 2022 #32
Thank you! H2O Man Nov 2022 #33
Exactly right, H20! peggysue2 Nov 2022 #34
Thank you! H2O Man Nov 2022 #36
+100. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2022 #35
Thanks! H2O Man Nov 2022 #37
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