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Abolishinist

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41. This, for example.
Wed Nov 16, 2022, 05:51 PM
Nov 2022
Then there’s how the Republicans specifically focused on commissioning “fake” polls showing Hochul and Zeldin TIED. Hochul won by seven. That race was never competitive. She was never in trouble. But that false narrative presumably drove right wingers to the polls.

Presumably? Based on what? How many are there of those who presumably were driven to the polls, i.e. they would NOT have voted otherwise. After all, she still won by seven. Perhaps a survey is needed to see if this was a factor.

As far as "fake" polls are concerned, the Trafalgar Group, for example, was one of the few to accurately call the 2016 presidential race, yet in 2022 they sucked big time across the board. It could be entirely attributed to their methodology, which appears to be quite different than most, working then but completely out of date six years later.

And on a personal level I don’t get the “my candidate is behind in the polls so I’m not going to vote” thing. I see voting as my civic duty, so I always vote. Beyond that, and partly because I’m in California, besides voting for Governor and Senator and Representative this time around there were 27 other items on the ballot, not including another 16 that were rather frivolous. So there's always a reason to show up.

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Yep.. Trafalgar and the other RW scam polling operatives pulled it off. honest.abe Nov 2022 #1
Hopefully those that were posting that Republican propaganda polling will take note: W_HAMILTON Nov 2022 #2
I was furious and pointed out to them that people read DU who may not be signed up or actively Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #31
Do you think we will learn, and not fall for the bs next time, I doubt it. Meadowoak Nov 2022 #3
We had internal polls and Simon Rosenberg was tweeting that R polls were not karynnj Nov 2022 #4
M$M does what adds to the profits of the 6 conglomerate owners. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #5
We pretty much knew this... Wounded Bear Nov 2022 #6
The quality of analysis I expect of Palmer Report Sympthsical Nov 2022 #7
+1 progressoid Nov 2022 #16
+1000 Celerity Nov 2022 #39
The Palmer Report? Really? Abolishinist Nov 2022 #8
+1 progressoid Nov 2022 #15
What part of this OP do you disagree with? Do you disagree that the polls were manipulated? Nevilledog Nov 2022 #20
This, for example. Abolishinist Nov 2022 #41
Fucking Trafalgar and Insider Advantage are fake polls which spread out and out lies. Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #32
In my area for months every second of commercial airtime was attacking onecaliberal Nov 2022 #9
The Republicans have big yummy dark money and consider all those here who said they would Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #33
To be fair, the republicans have "ruled" here for decades. Hasn't been a Dem rep here in here onecaliberal Nov 2022 #38
I knew this weeks and weeks ago BigmanPigman Nov 2022 #10
+1 GoodRaisin Nov 2022 #12
Yesiree totally agree! Cheezoholic Nov 2022 #17
Yes, this is so true Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #27
We both did our fucking best to counter the doom and gloom. Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #34
Neville - This is the important post on this site today, dealing with the most important issue..... EarnestPutz Nov 2022 #11
Both Alex Wegner and Stephanie Ruhle had guests saying the dems would tank bedazzled Nov 2022 #13
Maybe. moondust Nov 2022 #14
All that - plus Gerrymandering peppertree Nov 2022 #18
I would not stay home because of what I hear on tv Marthe48 Nov 2022 #19
I would do exactly as you do...but many don't and those are the ones who stay home if the think Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #36
It's been over 25 years PXR-5 Nov 2022 #21
Do polls reflect reality? Aussie105 Nov 2022 #22
The important point here is to never trust the MSM RainCaster Nov 2022 #23
What's the far left media? Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #30
Maybe that R movement in the polls did happen, but then Trump started making campaign appearances AdamGG Nov 2022 #24
No it did not happen. The fake polls showed Fetterman and even Mastriano losing in PA. Demsrule86 Nov 2022 #37
People, ignore polls. Vote. Just Vote. It's a small act to ask for your democracy. Vote goddamnit Joinfortmill Nov 2022 #25
Exactly. I consider it the price I pay to live in a democracy. Phoenix61 Nov 2022 #35
2 Senate seats? Which were the close ones we lost, I didn't see any bucolic_frolic Nov 2022 #26
Wisconsin AdamGG Nov 2022 #40
What's the Bannon mantra? leighbythesea2 Nov 2022 #28
I voted 3 weeks before election day - by mail FakeNoose Nov 2022 #29
I am not sure BornADemocrat Nov 2022 #42
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